Emission help

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Hi there, i have a 1990 5.0 lx and live in British Colombia Canada, I have to pass my emission test by October 10th or else i cant insure it any more. So everything passes except my hydrocarbon levels. I heard hydrocarbons are caused by unburned fuel so i just swapped out my plugs for some nicer ones and cleaned my k@n air filter really good. thought id take it down just to see if their was an improvement. There was but barely. Heres my emmision results of the car since 1992, please let me know what you guys think could be the problem. And the allowable amount is 82ppm at idle and 89ppm driving.

PS: I have only had the car since October '08 so i'm not sure what they did with the hydrocarbons last time.

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Just did a google search for failed emmisions high hydrocarbons, turned up a bunch of things to look at, bad wires, vacumm leak, high timing, etc. Also believe JRichker has posted on this board about emmisions problems suggest a search and see if anything looks like it might be affecting your car. Good Luck
 
How to pass emissions testing:

High NO - high combustion temps - retard timing, check EGR for operation.
High CO – Rich condition - fuel pressure too high, check O2 sensors, replace air filter, Clean MAF element.
High HC – Lean misfire, vacuum leak, common misfire due to worn or weak ignition system components. On rare occasions, an overly rich mixture may be the cause. Do the ethanol/E85 fill up as suggested.
High CO & HC - Cat converters, smog pump, and smog pump controls.

How to pass emissions testing:

1.) Make sure all the emissions gear the car was made with is present and connected up properly. That includes a working smog pump and cats. The smog tech will do a visual check to make sure that all the original equipment is present and connected up.

2.) Make sure that you have fresh tune up with spark plugs, plug wires, cap, rotor, fuel & air filters. An oil & filter change is a good idea while you are at it.

3.) Dumping The computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 19-May-2009 to update drawing for dumping the codes on 86-88 Mustangs with no check engine light.

Dump the codes and see what the computer says is wrong…Codes may be present in the computer even if the Check Engine light isn’t on.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

See Troublcodes.net Trouble Codes OBD & OBD2 Trouble Codes and Technical info & Tool Store. By BAT Auto Technical

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If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.

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The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.

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The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems.

Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
Or for a nicer scanner see http://www.midwayautosupply.com/p-7208-equus-digital-ford-code-reader-3145.aspx– It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.


4.) Post the codes and get help to fix them. Don’t try to pass with codes not fixed. Clearing the computer just temporarily removes them from memory, it doesn’t fix the problem that caused the code to be set.

5.) Be sure to do the testing on a hot engine. Drive for 15-20 minutes prior to taking the test to get operating temps up into the normal range. Do not shut off the engine while waiting for your turn on the test machine. An engine up to full operating temperature puts out fewer emissions.
 
Since the numbers have slowly crept up, I wonder if the o2 sensors have slowly begun to fall out.

Are they original?

Try running the koer codes and see what you come back with.
 
what is your o2 level?? that's an essential # and I don't see that. the cats use o2 to get rid of HC....if your o2 is high, meaning anything other than close to 0 and you have high hc, then your cats are suspect.....if you have low o2 and high hc, then the cats are doing their jobs, but the hc is likely a failure from something else.

As well, it could be a rich issue, but richness offten will cause high nox too, so take a look at those #s. I'd suspect the cats to be the problem, but without the o2 readings, it's hard to tell for sure. Classic sign the cats are failing would be high o2 also, 3, 4 5% etc....meaning the cats are no longer using the o2 to reduce hc.
 
what is your o2 level?? that's an essential # and I don't see that. the cats use o2 to get rid of HC....if your o2 is high, meaning anything other than close to 0 and you have high hc, then your cats are suspect.....if you have low o2 and high hc, then the cats are doing their jobs, but the hc is likely a failure from something else.

As well, it could be a rich issue, but richness offten will cause high nox too, so take a look at those #s. I'd suspect the cats to be the problem, but without the o2 readings, it's hard to tell for sure. Classic sign the cats are failing would be high o2 also, 3, 4 5% etc....meaning the cats are no longer using the o2 to reduce hc.


heres my print out they gave me, what do you think? the first page is idle the second is driving.
the second picture is cut off it goes, HC,CO,NOx,CO2, and then O2.

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your print outs are so different than ours

however, lets make sure i'm reading this right...

your o2 levels are at 9% right? and you have high HC's....

now I'm NOT a smog tech, but my father is, and that's why I know a little. I certainly won't advise you to spend hundreds on cats, but I'd bet that's the problem. If you know someone else with a stock h pipe, try trading them and then smogging your car.

at 9% oxygen levels, the cats aren't using the oxygen to reduce HC...if the cats were doing their job and functioning properly, your o2 would be close to 0.