I currently have summit cheapo shortys with crappy non high flow cats and true duel magnaflow exhaust. Car sounds decent at idle bc it has a cam... but reving it up im not real happy. Cruising it sounds ok not real happy and at wot it sounds ricey...the heads are comming off hopefully next week for new headgaskets and cleaning up so i wanted to get a better seat of headers eliminate the cats and get an off road h pipe. For them i was thinking mac shortys and h pipe. $370 for those. I might see how it sounds with the magnaflows and if i still dont like them id try another set of mufflers.... i dont like the flownasters as ive had them b4. I dont want super loud but dont want the drone either. I dont want to spend alot. The mac headers n h pipe r on sale right now... also i currently have 3" tips oit the rear and was hinking about putting them out the side b4 rear tire... pros n cons of that?