Do they exist??? As of late, with the premier of the "New Moon" movie, I have noticed a trend that perplexes me. Why is it that a 25+ yearold female news caster, or a female movie patron, even a soccer mom, can drool and sexually comment on a shirtless 17 yearold boy (one of the cast members), and not be marked as a pedophile? Yet if a man were to do the same, he would be marked as a sex offender, fined and possibly jailed?? These women (the 25+ crowd) need a reality check. Hell some of these "fans" probably have children of their own that are the same age as these "boys" that they are mentally fornicating with. Discuss....
Probably because the idea of a female pedophile = SWEET (sometimes good looking, not necessarily HOT but good looking) for most guys whereas a male pedophile = SICK (30+ fat lazy and not good looking by any standards). Generalizations yes, truth no...just my thoughts on why society allows it.
Double standards....I actually think we are guaranteed the right to be judged by double standards in the Constitution....or is it the Bible?
Most of what I've seen on the news and other channels, these women are no better off than the 30+ yearold men you describe. Average, overweight, and casual looking. In all honesty, it makes me a bit sick when I see a mom standing in line with her 2 tween daughters, to buy tickets, giving an interview and discussing how hot this 17 yearold boy's body is. I would be just as sickened if it were reversed. Where's the equality now?? Edit: it's not just the movie goers either. I've seen entertainment reporters do this as well.
because 17 year old boys like it whereas a 17 year old girl would feel threatened or scared if an older guy was drooling over them
Quite possibly true, but I think most men had fantasies of being seduced by an attractive older woman when they were younger. This fantasy may be partially misleading the notion that most 17 year old boys would want this, because the key word is "attractive". What do you think the boys response would be to this... (young kids, leave the room now) Yet society allows this behavior to occure. go figure
To me, those women are not a far cry from the 'pageant moms" who live vicariously through the things they push their kids to do. The difference I guess is the reaction they have if they feel they missed something along the way, are unfulfilled for some reason, or simply can't get over the fact that 16 is over for them and they need to be the grownup. Instead of driving their kid to be what they wanted to be, they become their kids 'best friend' instead of the parent. It just boggles my mind, how I'll be out someplace and see some 30ish-40ish woman hearding a group of teen girls (I assume her daughter and daughter's friends) and she's dressed just like them and sometimes even more extreme...shorter skirt or shorts, midrift showing off navel piercing, tramp stamp hovering over the back waistband, etc. I never was that cool parent. My mom always used say to me "It's not my job to be your friend, it's my job to be your parent." I hated heaing it when I was a teen, but when I had my own daughter to raise, I understood completely. It seems to me that parents today have completely passed over setting the example for their kids behavior and let the kids set the bar for them instead. I'd love to hear other's observations on this.
A couple times a year we invite highschoolers to our university. It's really interesting to see all the kids and their parents. A lot of them look and dress alike. Mom's in sweats and so's the kid. Mom's in a low cut shirt and so's the kid. To be honest I agree with Lisa, but parental involvement is important even if the parent can't be considered a grown up either.
IDK, I guess it's cuz most boys/men entertain the idea of being pursued or idolized by other women while most girls/women don't. I'm sure at the age of 17 most males would entertain the idea of an older women......within reason of course. I personally think this just means that men should be allowed to publicly drool over hot 17 y/o chicks. I tell my kid all the time I'm not here to be his friend and that I don't care if he likes me it's my job to turn him into the person he's capable of being. As far as I am concerned he can hate me for life if it makes him a better person. He doesn't hate me by any means. At lest not that I'm aware of. When I wake up in the middle of the night and he's hovering over me with a knife I might reconsider though
Agreed. It can be a double edged sword in that case I guess, but love and support in any form is probably better than none at all.
I would really like more input from the community on this. However at this point it seems that most are in agreement that it is wrong. So now the question... if most people (I may change "most" later depending on more responses) know it's wrong, and know it's going on, the why is no one doing anything about it? Almost like turning a blind eye to abuse in general.
You know, I just don't know. David and I talk about this very subject a lot. Not too long ago we were in Wal Mart and saw a girl that we estimated to be about 12 or 13 maybe. She was dressed very 'suggestively'. The shortest of the short skirt, platform heels, sheer shirt with her teeny bra kinda peeking thru. To boot, she was working it... making a show of looking at things on the shelves....bending over just enough, straight legged like a pinup girl, if you know what I'm saying. Then she'd look around to see if anybody was paying attention. A lot of men were, hell I kind of was. It was hard not to notice for one reason or another. It was obviously meant to be a show. The kicker though is that she was with her mom and her mom seemed completely oblivious to her attire or her actions. I don't know how a mom just looks at kitchen towels while her Jr. High daughter is looking and acting like a part time hooker right there next to her. I would never have been able to get out of the house dressed like that and I would not have dared to act that way in the presence of my parents. I guess people are just so desensitized due to movies, music and media it doesn't even occur to them that it might be out of line.
I don't know that I care if older people, guy or girl, check out young people so long as they are not touching, harassing, or harming them. I can not control how other people think. Is it bad behavior? Does their behavior negatively impact society?
Well, I think we feel differently when it's our daughter that's the object of somebodys 'attention' for lack of a better word. However, if somebody is putting on a 'show' in public, I don't know how they can really find offense if people take notice and react, negatively or otherwise. As much as we want to critize the lecherous old geezer for looking, we should probably also address the parent that is not paying attention to what 'Sweetie' is wearing and how she's acting. How exactly to do that is another issue. Some people want to hang Joe Francis by his balls for GGW. It is exploitation, but on the other hand, in all honestly, 'Sweetie' should have been taught better than to take off her clothes and get nasty with her girlfriend for a few drinks and a GGW t-shirt.
Which is exactly why I want a male kid! I know what I did growing up and I still oogle because it is hard not to. So either I need to have a male or a really ugly daughter that no one wants to look at. Basically, a Meg from family guy.
I somewhat agree with you on all accounts , however, I do believe that their behavior does negatively impact society. It sends a message. It says that it is OK to lust after a child (legally/physically that is exactly what they are) and what's really scary is that they send that message out blindly. Most people know it's wrong and they deal with it logically. Then there are the ones who act on their impulses thinking that it's OK because they saw other people on the TV expressing their lust for a child.
But she's in her early/mid 20's and legal. Besides this was meant to be a thread/rant about how it appears that women can be lewd towards children and society does not respond in the same manner as it would if the roles were reversed.
