Fox speedos = squeaksqueaksqueaksqueaksqueak...

Darkwriter77

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This is driving me nuts. EVERY SINGLE FOX MUSTANG that I have EVER owned has had a frickin' bouncy speedometer needle and squeaky speedometer. I've already tried replacing the cable, lubing the cable, inspecting and replacing the speedo gear in the trans, and nothing helps at all. In my '89, it squeaks and bounces really badly below 30 MPH; on my '84, it squeaks at ALL speeds, bounces when below 30 MPH, and goes insane when I go over 70 MPH (suddenly buries itself above 85 MPH and stays there until I slow down); on the '86 GT 'vert I had, it did exactly the same as the '84, and it was even worse whenever it was cold outside.

Again, changing cables or speedo gears and lubing the cable did NOTHING. Didn't even improve the situation for a day. Is it the speedometer, itself, that's doing this? Can I pull the gauge cluster and squirt something in there like spray silicone, WD-40, graphite, or white lithium grease? ... or spray anything in particular in the speedo cable? I've tried graphite on the cables before, but no luck.

Any ideas or miraculous fixes? I have a 3-day weekend with nothing better to do, so I'm busying myself by nitpicking on the little things that annoy the crap out of me with my cars... :D
 
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How the speedometer works:
The indicator pointer has no direct connection to the speedo cable. It uses a drum with magnets on it to couple to the pointer. The drum turns and tries to twist the circular steel disk that is mounted on the pointer spindle. The magnetic force is all that connects the drum to the circular disk. There is very little clearance between the disk and drum, only a few thousands of an inch.

Lubrication warnings
Use a graphite based lubricant for the speedo cable. It is available at most auto parts stores in a very small tube. Lubricate only the lower half of the cable. The reason for this is that if you use too much lubricant, it works its way up into the speedo head and gets between the rotating magnet drum and the disk. This causes the speedo to seize up and wring the indicator needle off the indicator spindle.


Now that you have read the warning, here's what I would do.

1.) Check the speedo cable routing to make sure it stays away from the exhaust system and the cable housing isn't damaged or kinked.
2.) Lubricate the cable as instructed.
3.) Use some brake parts cleaner to make sure there isn't any dirt or grit between the magnetic drum and disk. This area needs to be absolutely clean and free of dirt or residue to keep the drum and disk from binding and causing problems.


The speedo cable replacement tech note will help you get the speedo cable core out so you can lube it up properly.


Speedometer cable replacement.

Note: All 89-93 cars have a VSS sensor even if they do not have cruse control. The 87-88 only have a VSS sensor if the have cruse control.

Speedo cable housing assembly without cruse control:
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The VSS equipped cars have a speedo cable with a different fitting on the transmission end of the cable. It is the fitting on the LH side of the following picture.

Speedo cable housing assembly with cruse control
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Preparation: if you are only going to replace the inner part of the speedo cable, get lots of newspaper or a painter’s drop cloth to cover the inside front of the car. About the time you have the dirty, oily speedo cable core all over your lap and the inside of the car, you will thank me for this suggestion.

Replacing only the inner cable: see steps 1- 6, 12, 13, 17-21

Replacing the housing and inner cable as an assembly: see steps 1-11, 13-21

Inside the car:
1.) Remove the shield around the steering column that covers the ignition switch & turn indicator switch.
2.) You now have access to the two screws that hold the lower part of the cluster housing in place. Remove them and place them in a zip bag.
3.) Use a stubby or an offset Philips screwdriver to remove the two screws on the top of the cluster housing. The screws are up close to the windshield, so they can be hard to get at.
4.) The cluster housing will now slide forward: depending on your particular car, you may or may not have to disconnect the wiring for the headlights, hazard lights, or cluster wiring. All of the wiring uses plastic connectors with plastic spring clips on them. To release the connectors, lift the plastic clips and pull straight back.
5.) The speedo cable is secured in the speedo head by a white plastic clip. Depress the clip or squeeze it and pull the cable out of the speedo head. This can be tricky, but it will come out if you have the white clip depressed enough.

Speedo head cable clip

Photo courtesy of Almost Stock


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6.) With speedo cable removed from the speedo head, try twisting the cable end with your fingers. If it turns more than 1/4 turn, the cable may either be broken or you have damage at the other end where the cable mates to the VSS sensor or speedo pickup gear in the transmission.

Outside the car, replacing the cable housing assembly.
The following steps are necessary only if you plan on replacing the cable & cable housing assembly.
7.) If you are going to the replace the cable housing, the next step is important. Tie a study string or wire to the VSS sensor end of the cable housing. This string or wire is to be used to fish the cable housing back through the maze of wires that is under the dash. If all you are going to do is replace the inner cable, you can omit this step.
8.) Jack up the car, all 4 tires must be off the ground. Place jackstands under the car for safety.
9.) Locate the VSS sensor on the driver’s side of the transmission tailshaft housing. The speedo cable housing will be secured in the VSS sensor with a hairpin clip Do not remove the clip!!!: The hairpin clip stays in place. If you remove it, the odds are that you will not be able to get the cable to stay in place on re-installation. Pull firmly straight back on the cable housing and it will come out. A considerable amount of effort may be required to get the cable out of the VSS sensor, but it will pull out.
10.) Release the cable housing from the clips that secure it to the car body.

Inside the car:
11.) The housing assembly can then be pulled out and the fish string or wire can be removed from the old cable housing and secured to the new one.
12.) The inner cable can be removed by pulling it out of the housing assembly. Watch out for the lubricant so that you don’t get it on the car’s interior.
13.) Lubricate only the lower part of the new cable with speedometer lubricant or graphite. Don’t use too much lubricant, or it will work its way up into the speedo head unit and damage it. Thread the inner cable into the housing, turning it as you go. When you are all the way in with the new cable, it will engage the VSS sensor and stop turning.

Outside the car, replacing the cable housing assembly.
The following steps are necessary only if you plan on replacing the cable & cable housing assembly.
14.) Use the fish string or wire to feed the cable housing assembly through the dash wiring and out the cable hole in the firewall.
15.) Secure the cable in the body clips, making sure that the cable isn’t rubbing against the exhaust pipe.
16.) Push the cable housing assembly into the VSS sensor until it snaps in past the hairpin clip.

Inside the car:
17.) Push the cable housing back into the speedo head unit. You should be able to feel the white clip click into place.
18.) Reconnect all the wires & connectors on the speedo head unit.
19.) Re-install the cluster unit in the dash & tighten the 4 screws that hold it in place.
20.) Re-install the cover for the ignition switch & turn signal.
21.) If the car is up on jackstands, start the car, place it in gear & watch the speedo to see if it works OK. If you didn’t jack the car up, take a test drive.
 
wow!!!! that's awesome! my 87 was doing the same thing and I was about to break down and buy a new cluster in hopes that would fix it. I need to try this first.
on another note. my 93 never bounced it was steady from 0-120(well 100, never took it over that)
 
Okay, dumb question time:

1. When it mentions using brake cleaner to make sure there's nothing between the magnetic drum and disc, does that mean pulling apart the speedometer and just hosing it out with brake cleaner?
2. By lubing the "lower end of the cable," am I correct in assuming that's referring to the transmission end?
3. Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any pics of this drum and disc assembly being mentioned?
 
Okay, dumb question time:

1. When it mentions using brake cleaner to make sure there's nothing between the magnetic drum and disc, does that mean pulling apart the speedometer and just hosing it out with brake cleaner?
2. By lubing the "lower end of the cable," am I correct in assuming that's referring to the transmission end?
3. Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any pics of this drum and disc assembly being mentioned?

1. It is probably best to skip this step for now. In the 87-93 Mustangs, the speedo looks to be fairly well sealed. I have a spare speedo cluster from a 89. I an not inclined to take it apart since it was working when I took it out of my Mustang that got totaled.

2. Yes, you are correct, the transmission end gets most of the lube. You'll find that as you pull out the core from the passenger compartment and lube the lower end, that the upper end of the housing gets lubed when you put the core back in the housing.

3.) I don't have any photos or drawings of a Mustang Speedo, but here's a typical one from the web...

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If your days are filled with idle time do a google search on Eddy-Current Speedometer. You'll find lots of text but very few drawings.
 
Hmm, good info to know, I never heard of a squeaking speedo... well at least I won't be freaked out if it happens to me.

My needle bounces a little at 25 mph or below, but at those speeds I hardly look at the speedometer.
 
Ive had 3 'replacement' speedometer cables on my car, and all three have caused all kinds of problems that ended with them breaking. I recently acquired a OEM ford cable, and when looking over the cable i realized why. The replacement cables do not have a small metal shield over the outside about halfway down, which rests in the upper clamp near the steering shaft. All my cables had slight rubs in this area, which eventually wore through and caused the cable to snap. When i put in the OEM cable, which was used btw, it worked perfectly with no bounce or noise. I'm not sure if you have an aftermarket or replacement cable, but this has been my experience.
 
One thing that's overlooked when having a bouncing speedometer is the hold down clamp about half way down the cable. If it's too tight, it will bind the cable up. Take it off completely and see if the problem goes away, then reinstall it loosely.