Fuel Pump won't stop running

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Okay, here's the deal. Went out, got in my '89 5.0 LX notch, started it up and proceeded on my way to work. Stopped at the local gas station, put $20 in it and got back in the car. Car turned over but wouldn't start. Turned key off and then back to the run position, could hear the fuel pump running, but instead of cycling for 5-20 seconds as normal, it just continued to make the whirring noise and never quit until I turned the key back to the off position. Tried going from run to off several times hoping it would correct itself. It didn't. I'm guessing the fuel pump has given up the ghost as I am getting little to no pressure at the fuel rail. Am I missing something?
 
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Ensure the pump is seeing 12 volts. If it is but you don't build 30+ PSI, that signals that something is up. Ensure the regulator didnt break and go from there.

For the non-stop FP running, see if the ground wire from the computer to the negative side of relay's coil is constantly grounded. This can happen at the self test connector or due to a chafe.

Good luck.
 
Fuel Pump Troubleshooting for 86-90 Mustangs

Clue – listen for the fuel pump to prime when you first turn the ignition switch on.
It should run for 5-20 seconds and shut off. To trick the fuel pump into running,
find the ECC test connector and jump the connector in the lower RH corner to
ground.
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If the fuse links are OK, you will have power to the pump. Check fuel pressure –
remove the cap from the Schrader valve behind the alternator and depress the
core. Fuel should squirt out, catch it in a rag. A tire pressure gauge can also be
used if you have one - look for 37-40 PSI. Beware of fire hazard when you do this.

No fuel pressure, possible failed items in order of their probability:
A.) Tripped inertia switch – press reset button on the inertia switch. The hatch
cars hide it under the plastic trim covering the driver's side taillight. Use the
voltmeter or test light to make sure you have power to both sides of the switch

B.) Fuel pump power relay – located under the driver’s seat in most stangs built
before 92. On 92 and later model cars it is located below the Mass Air Flow meter.
C.) Clogged fuel filter
D.) Failed fuel pump
E.) Blown fuse link in wiring harness.
F.) Fuel pressure regulator failed. Remove vacuum line from regulator and inspect
for fuel escaping while pump is running.

The electrical circuit for the fuel pump has two paths, a control path and a power
path.

The control path consists of the inertia switch, the computer, and the fuel pump
relay coil. It turns the fuel pump relay on or off under computer control. The
switched power (red wire) from the ECC relay goes to the inertia switch
(red/black wire) then from the inertia switch to the relay coil and then from the
relay coil to the computer (tan/ Lt green wire). The computer provides the ground
path to complete the circuit. This ground causes the relay coil to energize and
close the contacts for the power path. Keep in mind that you can have voltage
to all the right places, but the computer must provide a ground. If there is no
ground, the relay will not close the power contacts.

The power path picks up from a fuse link near the starter relay. Fuse links are like
fuses, except they are pieces of wire and are made right into the wiring harness.
The feed wire from the fuse link (orange/ light blue wire) goes to the fuel pump
relay contacts. When the contacts close because the relay energizes, the power
flows through the contacts to the fuel pump (light pink/black wire). The fuel pump
has a black wire that supplies the ground to complete the circuit.

Remember that the computer does not source any power to actuators, relays
or injectors, but provides the ground necessary to complete the circuit. That
means one side of the circuit will always be hot, and the other side will go to
ground or below 1 volt as the computer switches on that circuit.


See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) &
Stang&2Birds (website host)

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/IgnitionSwitchWiring.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91eecPinout.gif

Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds

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Now that you have the theory of how it works, it’s time to go digging.

Look for 12 volts at the Orange/Lt. Blue wire (power source for fuel pump relay).
No voltage or low voltage, bad fuse link, bad wiring, bad ignition switch or ignition
switch wiring or connections. There is a mystery connector somewhere under the
driver’s side kick panel, between the fuel pump relay and the fuse link.

Turn on the key and jumper the fuel pump test connector to ground as previously
described. Look for 12 volts at the Light Pink/Black wire (relay controlled power
for the fuel pump). No voltage there means that the relay has failed, or there is a
broken wire in the relay control circuit.

Check the Red/black wire, it should have 12 volts. No 12 volts there, either the
inertia switch is open or has no power to it. Check both sides of the inertia
switch: there should be power on the Red wire and Red/Black wire. Power on the
Red wire and not on the Red/Black wire means the inertia switch is open.

Pump wiring: Anytime the ignition switch is in the Run position and the test
point is jumpered to ground, there should be at least 12 volts present on the
black/pink wire. With power off, check the pump ground: you should see less
than 1 ohm between the black wire and chassis ground.

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The Tan/Lt Green wire provides a ground path for the relay power. With the test
connector jumpered to ground, there should be less than .75 volts. Use a test
lamp with one side connected to battery power and the other side to the
Tan/Lt Green wire. The test light should glow brightly. No glow and you have a
broken wire or bad connection between the test connector and the relay. To test
the wiring from the computer, remove the passenger side kick panel and
disconnect the computer connector. It has a 10 MM bolt that holds it in place.
With the test lamp connected to power, jumper pin 22 to ground and the test
lamp should glow. No glow and the wiring between the computer and the fuel
pump relay is bad.

Computer: If you got this far and everything else checked out good, the computer is suspect.
Remove the test jumper from the ECC test connector located under the hood.
Probe computer pin 22 with a safety pin and ground it to chassis. Make sure the computer
and everything else is connected. Turn the ignition switch to the Run position and observe
the fuel pressure. The pump should run at full pressure.
If it doesn't, the wiring between pin 22 on the computer and the fuel pump relay is bad.
If it does run at full pressure, the computer may have failed.

Keep in mind that the computer only runs the fuel pump for about 2-3 seconds when you turn
the key to the Run position. This can sometimes fool you into thinking the computer has died.
Connect one lead of the test light to power and the other lead to computer pin 22 with a safety pin.
With the ignition switch Off, jumper the computer into self test mode like you are going to dump
the codes. Turn the ignition switch to the Run position. The light will flicker when the computer
does the self test routine. A flickering light is a good computer. No flickering light is a bad computer.
Remove the test jumper from the ECC test connector located under the hood.

If all of the checks have worked OK to this point, then the computer is bad. The
computers are very reliable and not prone to failure unless there has been
significant electrical trauma to the car. Things like lightning strikes and putting
the battery in backwards or connecting jumper cables backwards are about the
only thing that kills the computer.


In a properly functioning car, the ignition switch turns on, then the ECC (computer)
relay, then the computer powers up.

The battery sources the power to the fuel pump through the fuel pump relay.
The fuel pump relay control coil gets power from the computer and the computer
completes the circuit by providing a ground. This closes the fuel pump relay
contacts. Battery power then flows through the closed relay contacts to the fuel pump.

The computer is programmed to turn the fuel pump relay on and off according the needs of the engine.

You have one of four problems:

1.) A failed fuel pump relay: relay contacts have stuck closed.

2.) A short to ground in the computer to fuel pump relay control circuit.
The fuel pump relay is located under the driver's seat. The green wire going from
the fuel pump relay to pin 19 on the computer may have a place in it that has rubbed
bare and is shorting to ground. The computer test connector under the hood
on the driver's side of the engine also has a wire that connects to pin 19 on the computer.
It is used to test the fuel pump circuit by grounding it to make the fuel pump
run all the time. If someone jumpered it to ground, it would be just like a short to ground.

3.) Someone has crosswired your car. This could be difficult to fix, since the
bad wiring could be hidden in a number of different places.

4.) Failed computer - not very likely, since the computers are not prone to failure.
 
Hello,very useful info. I am going to tear into it. My problemm is basicly the same with a 93 5.0. pump runs constant with key on but no start. 40 lbs. pump pressure. Sometimes pump runs 4 or 5 seconds then shuts off. when it does it starts fine. This ring any bells with you where to look??
thanks for any input.
 
Hello,very useful info. I am going to tear into it. My problemm is basicly the same with a 93 5.0. pump runs constant with key on but no start. 40 lbs. pump pressure. Sometimes pump runs 4 or 5 seconds then shuts off. when it does it starts fine. This ring any bells with you where to look??
thanks for any input.
Work the checklist above and you will find the problem. If you want me to tell you to go buy some $11.99 part and install it, it isn't going to happen. You have a problem and the troubleshooting steps to fix it. Get busy.....