Well I read MOST (yes the CAPS is off of Jay Allen's form of typing) - I wonder where some got that idea
Anyways...I'm going to get in the mix (as I so often can/do)...because their is some guys I recognize in here.
First off to Crunchie - I really don't think the intake is your whole problem (sorry to reiterate what others have said), though there are better intakes out there.
The reason people run the TF's like they do is very simple. The price...it is in the same category as the Performers and those of the like but for a cheaper price and a bigger promise. So why do you think people use them? Price.
There are several that are brand bias...and some that truely aren't.
I get sick and tired of "some" in here not posting all the info that needs to be typed out or how some have convienient amnesia? (They know who I'm talking to...really just one). Quit posting general and bias info. If one is going to claim power numbers then post ALL (yes courtesy of Jay Allen's form of typing) mods that helped attain the numbers.
When one puts an intake was "hand and hand" under 3,000rpm...there is a HUGE (yes, jay allen again) underlying curve underthere of power to be had. Comparing two torque numbers at 3k is not a very test worthy way to put down some numbers. Try daily driver rpms...I don't rack my rpms up there when just cruising around...and I don't go WOT to 3k either...
There are better intakes out there...not all are created equal.
It is best not to have to make a cam or intake (etc.) to take up the slack of to big or to small a part.
Those running the bigger intakes (systemax/rpm II/victors) on their 302's...I have to ask them or anyone taking up for them - Is this their daily driver? Does it drive like a Performer/cam matched/heads car "below 3,000rpm"?
It isn't about "matching your combo to the intake"...but matching it to what the driver is wanting. A nice quick daily driver or a quicker track runner with the same bottomend?
Exactly.
Degreeing a cam is ideal but isn't just compeletely necessary for a OTS cam that has the same casting for years. Production tolerances are pretty tight...
Don't call people names like "idiot". Name-calling just shows a loss of control. Save that for elsewhere.
It's about time for a Let's see where it goes...
Anyways...I'm going to get in the mix (as I so often can/do)...because their is some guys I recognize in here.
First off to Crunchie - I really don't think the intake is your whole problem (sorry to reiterate what others have said), though there are better intakes out there.
The reason people run the TF's like they do is very simple. The price...it is in the same category as the Performers and those of the like but for a cheaper price and a bigger promise. So why do you think people use them? Price.
There are several that are brand bias...and some that truely aren't.
I get sick and tired of "some" in here not posting all the info that needs to be typed out or how some have convienient amnesia? (They know who I'm talking to...really just one). Quit posting general and bias info. If one is going to claim power numbers then post ALL (yes courtesy of Jay Allen's form of typing) mods that helped attain the numbers.
When one puts an intake was "hand and hand" under 3,000rpm...there is a HUGE (yes, jay allen again) underlying curve underthere of power to be had. Comparing two torque numbers at 3k is not a very test worthy way to put down some numbers. Try daily driver rpms...I don't rack my rpms up there when just cruising around...and I don't go WOT to 3k either...
There are better intakes out there...not all are created equal.
It is best not to have to make a cam or intake (etc.) to take up the slack of to big or to small a part.
Those running the bigger intakes (systemax/rpm II/victors) on their 302's...I have to ask them or anyone taking up for them - Is this their daily driver? Does it drive like a Performer/cam matched/heads car "below 3,000rpm"?
It isn't about "matching your combo to the intake"...but matching it to what the driver is wanting. A nice quick daily driver or a quicker track runner with the same bottomend?
Exactly.
Degreeing a cam is ideal but isn't just compeletely necessary for a OTS cam that has the same casting for years. Production tolerances are pretty tight...
Don't call people names like "idiot". Name-calling just shows a loss of control. Save that for elsewhere.
It's about time for a Let's see where it goes...