Going back to a 4.6 from 5.4 am I missing anything?

[GTblack_00]

Well, after letting the car sit for such a long time now, I just dropped it off friday to get a new motor. Going from a built lightning motor with a broken modmax spring to a mach 1 motor. It'll be great to have the weight shaved too.

The new motor has a forged crank and is getting billet rods ( oliver or manley ) whatever the builder decides/orders tomarrow, building 1 for me and 1 for himself, CP 17cc pistons, stainless ring pack and billet oil pump gears. Anything missing??

JL

 

[Monkie]

racing oil PAN

 

[GTblack_00]

gotcha, need an oil pan, although I was going to stay with the factory one being that this is a street motor, but 7 qts would be nice.

 

[Monkie]

With the factory oil pan if you keep the revs up in the DOHC engine all the oil will go to the top of the motor and there won't be that much on the bottom. Not good! It doesn't cost that much and its life insurance for your engine. SHM has a racing oil pan for something like $300 I think.

 

[GTblack_00]

damn I think you sold me. although I have seen my builder make a 7 qt pan out of a factory one in about 20 minutes after the paint was sanded off......

 

[GTblack_00]

soo, where are good places to look for a high capacity pan, that will work on the street besides shm, I want choices.

 

[Monkie]

BTW you will have the same engine I will have pretty soon. I am getting Billet rods, billet oil pump gears, racing pan, and JE deep dish pistons. Now...what power are you going to make? Because the sky is the limit with that engine.

 

[Screwed2V]

soo, where are good places to look for a high capacity pan, that will work on the street besides shm, I want choices.

Moroso

 

[Monkie]

soo, where are good places to look for a high capacity pan, that will work on the street besides shm, I want choices.

I dunno man, I haven't gotten that far. But I do know that SHM makes top of the line products for modular engines.

 

[GTblack_00]

well, for now because I wanted to overbuild the money is spent on the motor, but 280 to the wheels for a couple of months wont bother me at all. After that I plan on doing either just a tuner kit with S-trim and impeller upgrade with a small pully or saving for a couple more months and taking on that induction concepts package!!!

 

[Monkie]

So you are going to have a Mach 1 engine in a 00 GT? And if I were you I would stay away from superchargers.

 

[Screwed2V]

And if I were you I would stay away from superchargers.

Why?

 

[GTblack_00]

Why?

yeah why??

I have seen some 01 cobra blocks hold up to some stuff before, the machs are stronger!!

 

[GTblack_00]

hey micool, what do you think your new #'s are going to put you at??

 

[Monkie]

superchargers take alot of power to make power. Plus on a supercharger it wont hit full boost until redline because it can only make x amount of boost at x amount of rpms. And since it takes so long to build boost you will make no amount of torque. Now take a turbocharger that will spool up fast and you are making ALOT more potential. I'm dumping my supercharger for a twin turbo kit. Here is just a taste of what the difference is. My supercharger makes 11psi at 7,000rpms. The turbo kit that I'm putting on will make that boost at 3,000rpms. So in return I will make tons of torque at a very low RPM. Plus on top of that I will lose a pulley allowing my engine to make more power because it will spin more freely.

 

[Screwed2V]

hey micool, what do you think your new #'s are going to put you at??

All I'm positive of is that it's gonna make a LOT more torque.

 

[GTblack_00]

I know, but see 600 rwhp is more than enough for me, and if it isnt then I'll save and sell what I have!! I still am not set in stone though because the induction concepts setup just looks soo good !!

 

[GTblack_00]

What do you guys/gals think of the apten cooling mod, that is a definate option that I am taking! have any of you done it??

 

[Monkie]

Wait until you see my numbers. hehehe

 

[Screwed2V]

superchargers take alot of power to make power. Plus on a supercharger it wont hit full boost until redline because it can only make x amount of boost at x amount of rpms. And since it takes so long to build boost you will make no amount of torque.

Hmm, yep, no torque here. 400 rwtq at 3700 rpm? Of course not as much as a turbo would make but to say that a supercharger makes "no amount of torque" is absolutely ludicrous.