H Pipe, X Pipe, What's The Difference?

[GT Drifter]

I know why they are called an H or X pipe.

What about sound and power differences though?

 

[25thmustang]

X will be raspier and higher pitched, H will be deeper and throatier. I prefer X pipes myself.

 

[Turkey Sammich]

X is going to give you the race car sound

H is going to give you the old school rumble.

The X is going to cost a bit more because it give you power. I think it was like 1-3 hps. I know someone posted up information about it a few weeks ago. I think it was in tech.

 

[RsStanG1987]

X- and H pipe give about the same power. the H-pipe is louder the x pipe is raspier..

 

[GT Drifter]

Ah, yes the race car sound.
Thanks guys.

I'm assuming, shortie vs long tube headers effect the sound too?

 

[cenok is family]

X will be raspier and higher pitched, H will be deeper and throatier. I prefer X pipes myself.

i agree 100%....except i prefer H pipes.

X pipes give a miniscule amount more HP and are quieter at idle, loud and raspy at WOT. H pipes are a deeper louder idle, and loud and rumbly at WOT.

 

[25thmustang]

Yes shorties vs long tubes change the sound. LTs are quiter down low and eve into the mid range, then up top they are louder than shorties. I have LTs, and an O/R X on my car and enjoy the sound, for now.

 

[Shakerhood]

I remember many years back in NASCAR that Sterling Marlins Car always sounded different, it wasnt until he flipped the Car over that exposed his X Pipe and then it bacame commonplace as every HP counts.

 

[bloopbloob]

i'll just say that after i installed my lt's and o/r x, the exhaust note was actually quieter than with stock headers. At maybe 4000+, it may have been a bit louder, but not really. i think the lt's quiet things down a lot.

 

[thetrousertrout]

Heres a video that has my car in it, Its around halfway through the vid. F303 cam, Longtubes, Xpipe, and Flowmaster 40's...
http://enormouslysideways.net/Friday.September21st-2007.wmv

 

[blackened88lx]

X pipes give a miniscule amount more HP and are quieter at idle, loud and raspy at WOT. H pipes are a deeper louder idle, and loud and rumbly at WOT.

I wouldn't say h-pipes are louder at idle. The x-pipe's raspiness makes them kind of crackle at idle and sounds louder to me. H-pipes are throatier and tend to drone a lot. I have flows on my car (unfortunately) and even with a catted h-pipe it droned pretty bad. I threw on an o/r x, and not only does it sound a hell of a lot better, there is no drone whatsoever. I like the sound of an x better, and there is a very small power difference.

 

[25thmustang]

The most power will probably come from a Prochamber. I had a prochamber and Mac catback through tails, sold them and put on an O/R X and dumped spintechs and coupled with a 5 lug conversion lost a bunch of power and 21rwtq. Never had an O/R H on the car, but did have the prochamber and X and from what it seems the prochamber might have made some more power.

 

[CleanConcepts]

The most power will probably come from a Prochamber. I had a prochamber and Mac catback through tails, sold them and put on an O/R X and dumped spintechs and coupled with a 5 lug conversion lost a bunch of power and 21rwtq. Never had an O/R H on the car, but did have the prochamber and X and from what it seems the prochamber might have made some more power.

You have a vid or a sound clip of your car with the prochamber and the mac cat-back system?!?!? I am considering that set up for my next car and I haven't heard a prochamber on mac mufflers before.

 

[25thmustang]

I dont have any decent ones, might have one of a track pass that doesnt really let you hear much, other than a slipping clutch in 3rd and 4th...

Not sure how to link Myspace videos either???

 

[GT Drifter]

I heard that the pro chamber only gave a few more HP (like 1-3) and the same torque.
All marketing hype or?

 

[5spd GT]

Every little bit helps...

 

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

I heard that the pro chamber only gave a few more HP (like 1-3) and the same torque.
All marketing hype or?

I've never seen real world numbers but i've ran the pro chamber back to back with an X and didn't feel any difference but the X sounds a billion times better. Between an H and X, typically the H makes a tad more torque at the expense of peak hp and visa versa for the X, it'll make a tad more top end at the expense of a slight loss in bottom end. All in all it's apples and oranges and nothing that you'll ever feel on the street or track.

 

[25thmustang]

I heard that the pro chamber only gave a few more HP (like 1-3) and the same torque.
All marketing hype or?

I have a weak comparison, as other stuff changed...

On 245/45/17 Falkens with stock 4 lug brakes, Prochamber and a Mac Catback out 2.5" tails my car made...

272 rwhp
316 rwtq

Ran 12.99 @ 107.6 with a 2.06 60'.

On 285/35/18 Falkens with 5 lug SN95 brakes, VRS X pipe and Spintech mufflers out 3" turn downs my car made...

258 rwhp
295 rwtq

Ran 12.95 @ 106.0 with a 1.91 60'.

Dyno runs were very similar conditions if not the same, the track runs might have been slightly better air with the 12.95, but the exact same event 3 years apart, same track as well (NED FFW).

 

[ryan218]

prochamber FTW

 

[GT Drifter]

Thanks for the info guys.
After hearing this set up I think I've figured out what to run exhaust wise for now.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1e6cfdea-6307-4fc1-b1a5-98fa0118f0ab.htm

BBK Shorties, Off-Road X-pipe and Spintech Pro Streets