integral power steering box

[19shelby67]

i just re-registered to this site after a few years of idling,and i wanted to know if anyone has tried the integral power steering boxes? do they give good road "feel"?

 

[Shakin66]

I have installed the Borgeson Box and have been really happy with it. I makes me want to drive the car and in my 66' it has great 16:1 feel. I would suggest it to anyone looking to retain the stock suspension. If you have all of your tools and parts its a weekend swap and if you have your part numbers I may be able to save you some money on the kit or Summit has great prices on it too. I did a brief write up on here but if you have questions email me at [email protected] as I rarely check my PMs here.
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[Shakin66]

Heres the previous posting although there isnt much techincal info.
http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/812865-borgeson-box-install.html

 

[19shelby67]

thanks for the info,shakin66...i just relised that these boxes are re-manufactured.does anyone know what they originally came from?

 

[2+2GT]

Doesn't matter, unless you can add the mounting plate Borgeson welds onto them.

 

[Shakin66]

I have no idea and the rumors say from a Toyota Cressida to GM. They have done a great job in manufacturing and it updates the driving experience to a much newer feel. The pittman arm also fits so theres more to it than just rewelding a plate. With shelby coils, 5 leafs on the back, Hyd clutch & a six speed its like driving a completely different car. Might be my favorite mod to date.
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[19shelby67]

thanks for the info shakin. i replaced the whole front end,probably close to 15 years ago.everything that could be new,was replaced.at the time new steering boxes wern't availible so i bought a 're-built' one out hemmings news(how/were they rebuilt with no parts availible,i don't know)

the car has never driven good and i want to take the forklift like road feel out of it on the cheap...lol

it is a 67 that i put a 68 style column and rag joint on.i was wondering if that could be re-used and if their are any junkyard hoses that will work.the motor is a late model 5 liter with power steering.

 

[Shakin66]

Thats funny because I "just" rebuilt mine 15 years ago also. I bet all of those new parts dont have 1000 miles on them yet. If you have a Serp. belt drive like I do its perfect because you can use a fox body's pump. and Borgeson has the hoses you'll need. Gill is their tech guy and he knows his stuff.

 

[19shelby67]

shakin,have the serpentine belt and fox power steering pump but was wanting to try and cut costs with cheaper (junkyard ) hoses...does brgeson sell direct?

 

[86T-Top]

Shakin66,

Did you have manual steering or factory power steering before you installed the Borgeson box?

Thanks,

Mario

 

[Shakin66]

They dont sell direct but I was set up due to having a related business. Myself or Gill can help you with your correct part numbers on the hoses.
My car was manual before the swap.

 

[Westmus]

I have no idea and the rumors say from a Toyota Cressida to GM.

Earlier there was some power steering kits on Ebay which I believe was based on a older Toyota box. The Borgeson looks VERY similar to an 90's Isuzu steering box, with the mounting eyes cut off and a new mounting plate welded on instead.

 

[Hwyman]

You should be able to buy direct from them (Borgeson). I did about 8 months ago. Even got a catalog. I just got one of the "kits". Came with all the right parts, hoses, center link, etc. Shipped from their business to my door.