Is This Saleen Real?

SeventyMach1

Keep it lubed .... keep it straight .... and keep
Mar 30, 2005
1,940
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North Carolina
I know ... why post this here. Well, this is where all my homies are, lol. A carfax would be awesome if anyone here can do that. Anyway, I looked at a Lightning today (may get it) and there was a Saleen on the lot that also piqued my interest. What little I saw of it made me think it was authentic .... but it didn't have a bumper number.



Can anyone tell me if it is authentic? I did the SHORT search on Carfax and it said '03 GT .... but I don't know if they are all like that or not.


1FAFP42X03F445059


And if anyone is doing full carfax's .... the Lightning is 2FTZF07371CA89310. I would greatly appreciate this one.



EDIT: BTW, my email is [email protected]
 
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its kinda easy to tell a real saleen from fake in person unless the person spent a lot of $$ collecting parts

emblems, stickers, and depending on what package body kit, interior stuff, seats, white face 200mph gauges, supercharger, brakes ect...
 
2003 FORD MUSTANG GT
1FAFP42X03F445059
COUPE
4.6L V8 FI SOHC 16V / REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options
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Ownership HistoryOwnership History
The number of owners is estimated by CARFAX Owners 1-2 Owner 3 Owner 4
Year purchased 2003 2006 2006
Type of owner Personal --- ---
Estimated length of ownership 2 yrs. 8 mo. 4 months 4 months
Owned in the following states/provinces Georgia, Alabama Alabama Alabama
Estimated miles driven per year 7,300/yr --- ---
Last reported odometer reading 19,001 21,600 24,628



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No total loss reported to CARFAX.

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No frame damage reported to CARFAX.

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported
Airbag Deployment Check
No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX.

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported
Odometer Rollback Check
No indication of an odometer rollback.

No Issues Indicated

No Issues Indicated

No Issues Indicated
Accident Check
No accidents reported to CARFAX.

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported
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2003 FORD MUSTANG Listed 1 day ago
Body Style: Coupe
Engine Type: 3.8L V6 SFI OHV
Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM CD, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer
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2002 FORD MUSTANG Listed 3 days ago
Body Style: Coupe
Engine Type: 3.8L V6 SFI OHV
Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM CD, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer
Free CARFAX Report CARFAX has determined that this vehicle has had one previous owner Ken Grody Ford
714-521-3110

Distance: 10.51 mi
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2003 FORD MUSTANG COBRA SVT Listed 3 days ago
Body Style: Convertible
Engine Type: 4.6L V8 FI DOHC
Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM CD, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer
Free CARFAX Report CARFAX has determined that this vehicle has had one previous owner Sunset Ford
714-898-0744

Distance: 8.91 mi
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A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 4 billion vehicle history events and found 12 record(s) for this 2003 FORD MUSTANG GT (1FAFP42X03F445059).


Owner 1
Purchased: 2003
Type: Personal
Where: Georgia
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 8/28/03 - 4/12/05
(1 yr. 7 mo.)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
07/17/2003 NICB Vehicle manufactured
and shipped to original dealer
08/28/2003 Georgia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Canton, GA Registered as
personal vehicle
09/08/2003 Georgia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Canton, GA
Title #778243032516035 Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Loan or lien reported
09/18/2003 Georgia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Canton, GA
Title #778243032516035 Registration issued or renewed
Loan or lien reported
08/30/2004 Georgia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Acworth, GA Registration updated when owner moved
the vehicle to a new location

Owner 2
Purchased: 2005
Where: Georgia, Alabama
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 4/12/05 - 5/16/06
(1 yr. 1 mo.)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
04/12/2005 Georgia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Newnan, GA
Title #776317051024027 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported
03/07/2006 19,001 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Pell City, AL
Title #35441217 Title issued or updated
Loan or lien reported

Owner 3
Purchased: 2006
Where: Alabama
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 5/16/06 - 9/27/06
(4 months)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
05/16/2006 21,600 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Pell City, AL
Title #35756357 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported

Owner 4
Purchased: 2006
Where: Alabama
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 9/27/06 - 1/30/07
(4 months)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
09/27/2006 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Pell City, AL
Title #36376732 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported
12/07/2006 23,926 Jim Skinner Ford, Inc.
Birmingham, AL
205-854-2222
www.jimskinnerford.com Vehicle serviced
01/30/2007 24,623 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale
02/26/2007 24,628 North Carolina
Inspection Station
Belmont, NC Passed emissions inspection
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The Lightning

2001 FORD F150 SVT LIGHTNING
2FTZF07371CA89310
PICKUP
5.4L V8 SFI SOHC / REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options
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* The last reported odometer reading was 74,726

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Ownership HistoryOwnership History
The number of owners is estimated by CARFAX Owner 1 Owner 2 Owner 3
Year purchased 2001 2003 2006
Type of owner Personal Personal ---
Estimated length of ownership 1 yr. 6 mo. 3 yrs. 2 mo. 10 months
Owned in the following states/provinces Florida Florida Florida
Estimated miles driven per year --- --- ---
Last reported odometer reading 18,505 22,903 74,726



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No Problem
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No Problem
Not Actual Mileage | Exceeds Mechanical Limits Guaranteed
No Problem Guaranteed
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Not all accidents or other issues are reported to CARFAX Owner 1 Owner 2 Owner 3
Total Loss Check
No total loss reported to CARFAX.

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported
Frame Damage Check
No frame damage reported to CARFAX.

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported
Airbag Deployment Check
No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX.

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported
Odometer Rollback Check
No indication of an odometer rollback.

No Issues Indicated

No Issues Indicated

No Issues Indicated
Accident Check
No accidents reported to CARFAX.

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported

No Issues Reported
Manufacturer Recall Check
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No Recalls Reported

No Recalls Reported

No Recalls Reported
Basic Warranty Check
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2001 FORD F150 SUPERCREW Listed 5 days ago
Body Style: Crew Pickup
Engine Type: 5.4L V8 PFI SOHC 16V
Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM Cassette, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer
Free CARFAX Report CARFAX has determined that this vehicle has had one previous owner Moss Brothers Ford
909-825-1212

Distance: 37.77 mi
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2002 FORD F150 SUPERCREW
Body Style: Crew Pickup
Engine Type: 5.4L V8 PFI SOHC 16V
Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM CD, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer
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2001 FORD F350 SUPER DUTY
Body Style: Crew Pickup
Engine Type: 6.8L V10 FI SOHC
Standard Equipment: Power Steering, AM / FM, Power Brakes, 6-digit Odometer
Free CARFAX Report CARFAX has determined that this vehicle has had one previous owner Ken Grody Ford
714-521-3110

Distance: 10.51 mi
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A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 4 billion vehicle history events and found 20 record(s) for this 2001 FORD F150 SVT LIGHTNING (2FTZF07371CA89310).


Owner 1
Purchased: 2001
Type: Personal
Where: Florida
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 7/7/01 - 1/10/03
(1 yr. 6 mo.)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
06/20/2001 NICB Vehicle manufactured
and shipped to original dealer
07/07/2001 27 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Jupiter, FL
Title #0083680681 Odometer reading reported for title
or registration
07/20/2001 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Jupiter, FL Registered as
personal vehicle
07/20/2001 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Jupiter, FL
Title #0083680681 Title issued or updated
First owner reported
10/01/2001 3,600 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
Lubed oil and filter changed
Suspension system serviced
Emissions system serviced
11/15/2001 6,906 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
03/01/2002 10,915 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
Suspension system serviced
Lubed oil and filter changed
Emissions system serviced
04/03/2002 12,129 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
06/10/2002 14,269 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
Lubed oil and filter changed
Suspension system serviced
Electrical system serviced
Emissions system serviced
10/30/2002 18,505 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
Lubed oil and filter changed
Emissions system serviced
Fuel system serviced

Owner 2
Purchased: 2003
Type: Personal
Where: Florida
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 1/10/03 - 3/15/06
(3 yrs. 2 mo.)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
01/10/2003 22,903 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lakeland, FL
Title #0083680681 Odometer reading reported for title
or registration
02/11/2003 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lakeland, FL
Title #0083680681 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported
06/11/2003 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lakeland, FL
Title #0083680681 Registration issued or renewed
Registered as
personal vehicle
Loan or lien reported
Vehicle color noted as Red
07/07/2004 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lakeland, FL
Title #0083680681 Registration issued or renewed
Registered as
personal vehicle
Vehicle color noted as Red
06/09/2005 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lakeland, FL
Title #0083680681 Registration issued or renewed
Registered as
personal vehicle
Vehicle color noted as Red

Owner 3
Purchased: 2006
Where: Florida
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 3/15/06 - 1/24/07
(10 months)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
03/15/2006 64,857 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lakeland, FL
Title #0083680681 Odometer reading reported for title
or registration
11/28/2006 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lakeland, FL
Title #0083680681 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
01/24/2007 74,722 Auto Auction Sold at auction
in Florida
Listed as
a dealer vehicle
02/01/2007 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale
02/21/2007 74,726 North Carolina
Inspection Station
Belmont, NC Passed emissions inspection
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Hows that???
 
What's up Ben. Yeah, it's been a while. Been working alot lately .... but hope it calms down soon. Good to see you guys again.




Adam, I think the V6 part was for another car because his report added a bunch of other stuff, like searches for cars. I may be wrong though, lol.




Matt, thank you so much for doing that!




So with that posted ... anyone know if it's a real one? And yes, if it is fake, the owner did ALOT of buying. It has Saleen stuff everywhere, like on the shifter console, sides, back, etc. Who knows. Gonna try to talk 'em down on the Lightning and then trade in the F-250. Maybe.
 
Go back and ask if you can check under the hood for a saleen plate. Better yet, call Saleen and read them the VIN # and they should tell you if it's real or not. The not having the number on the bumper part might tell you that it's fake. I think all real Saleens have numbers on them. Could be wrong though.
 
Saleen puts there own vin plate on thier cars, so if it's a regular vin plate it's a fake. I just happen to have a blank saleen vin plate sitting around..... ;) I was gonna put the vin plate on ebay too, but it's too expensive and is semi illegal.... lol
 
I'm 99.9% sure that all saleen's do NOT start life as a V6. It wouldn't make economic sense for them to do it that way. Does this car have the ID tag near the shifter? Those can be faked, but its not easy to do.
 
I'm 99.9% sure that all saleen's do NOT start life as a V6. It wouldn't make economic sense for them to do it that way. Does this car have the ID tag near the shifter? Those can be faked, but its not easy to do.


yeah, i'm pretty sure it was just the S351R and SR that started as V6's.

in '00 there would be a VIN plaque on the firewall right above the master cylinder
 
Many ways to tell...

-Number on bumper
-Body kit, wheels ( stampted with SALEEN) decals, badges, are obvious
-Racecraft suspension ( Alcon brakes are an upgrade)
-Floor mats, 200mph gauge, badge by shifter


Some things you normally wouldn't think about...

-C pillar is a molded fiberglass piece with blacked out from section
-Saleen uses 2 phillips screws to retain from of sideskirt, where most people mocking them only use the one factory hole
-badge placement and stamping on wheel ( embossed actually)
-Saleens use rebadged ( with racecraft stickers) Bilsteins, red racecraft springs, red racecraft larger swaybar, swaybar bushings.
-The Alcon brake upgrade would be a pricey purchase for anyone trying to mock one.

-Saleen painted the front lower radiator support black and sprays the backside of each cutout with mesh screen, flat black.

-Saleens use Borla exhaust, and will have a factory catt'ed X pipe ( Saleen uses factory H pipes, that they cut on the H and weld in a magnaflow X rear section.