I've seen them before. They are Five spoke rims. With a tiny lip. The Spokes are flat. And it has the saleen logo in the center cap. Not the 5 lug 16x7 and 16x8's that I have seen also. But they are 4 lug x108. 17x? They do exsist. Someone has them that lives by me. But I don't know where he lives and am not going to wait by his car until he shows up. I am looking for them. Please let me know if you know what I am talking about.