Running rich, failing emissions. Please help!

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  1. MikeUrban

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    Hey everyone, I'm not sure if this is in the right part of the forum and I'm sorry if it isn't but I live in Northern Virginia and I took my car to have it tested for emissions and it failed. My engine is bored .30 over and it has after market cams. I don't know what kind of cams it has though, but I was told by the mechanic who did my test that it was causing it to run rich. Does anyone know if I can get a tune done on the car to make it run right? If so, what kinds of places should I look? Thanks in advance.

    -Mike
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    Mike,

    Make sure your TPS voltage is below .95
    Turn base timing down to 8-10 degrees with spout connector pulled out.
    Fresh oil, plugs, cap, rotor, wires, fuel filter, air filter and pcv to ensure you are up to snuff. Make sure your smog pump is still dumping air into the second set of cats.

    Make sure no fuel is bypassing the vacuum diaphram on the fpr. If you have an adjustable FPR set it to 36 with the vacuum disconnected.

    Clean your MAF with brake clean.

    How old are the cats? A fresh set of cats will do wonders on a dirty car.

    Also make sure there are no codes in the EEC. A faulty 02 will put the car into default. A lazy 02 can cause a rich car as well.

    I've passed several b-cam, long-tube header cars back when we used to have to do the IM240 testing here.
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    How to pass emissions testing:

    High NO - high combustion temps - retard timing, check EGR for operation.
    High CO – Rich condition - fuel pressure too high, check O2 sensors, replace air filter, Clean MAF element.
    High HC – Lean misfire, vacuum leak, common misfire due to worn or weak ignition system components. On rare occasions, an overly rich mixture may be the cause. Do the ethanol/E85 fill up as suggested.
    High CO & HC - Cat converters, smog pump, and smog pump controls.

    How to pass emissions testing:

    1.) Make sure all the emissions gear the car was made with is present and connected up properly. That includes a working smog pump and cats. The smog tech will do a visual check to make sure that all the original equipment is present and connected up.

    2.) Make sure that you have fresh tune up with spark plugs, plug wires, cap, rotor, fuel & air filters. An oil & filter change is a good idea while you are at it.

    3.) Dumping The computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

    Revised 19-May-2009 to update drawing for dumping the codes on 86-88 Mustangs with no check engine light.

    Dump the codes and see what the computer says is wrong…Codes may be present in the computer even if the Check Engine light isn’t on.

    Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

    Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.

    Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

    Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

    See Troublcodes.net Trouble Codes OBD & OBD2 Trouble Codes and Technical info & Tool Store. By BAT Auto Technical

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    If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.

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    The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

    89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.

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    The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


    WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

    What to expect:
    You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems.

    Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

    Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

    Alternate methods:
    For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

    Or for a nicer scanner see Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
    Or for a nicer scanner see http://www.midwayautosupply.com/p-7208-equus-digital-ford-code-reader-3145.aspx– It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.


    4.) Post the codes and get help to fix them. Don’t try to pass with codes not fixed. Clearing the computer just temporarily removes them from memory, it doesn’t fix the problem that caused the code to be set.

    5.) Be sure to do the testing on a hot engine. Drive for 15-20 minutes prior to taking the test to get operating temps up into the normal range. Do not shut off the engine while waiting for your turn on the test machine. An engine up to full operating temperature puts out fewer emissions.
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