Give Me TP said:
Also having talked to a few tuners, when getting a true custom or dyno tune, it doesn't matter whether you have a Diablo or SCT flash tuning device. The actual tuning software used by a Diablo or SCT gives virtually the same results; the difference is in the competence of the person using it. The flash tuner itself is only the medium used to download the tune.
I have to disagree. By that thinking all tuning products are created equal then.
Here are what other tuners like Ed Clark and Ken from Modular Depot think of the predator.
"There's alot more to it. How about the timing tables? Maybe the Predator adds global timing, we create a complete new table. Why add 3 degrees everywhere when you only need it at say, 5,000 rpm? For the Predator to ship and work with a multitude of cars, they have to be conservative. Once you get it, you can only add timing globally or in certain ranges. Plus, if you think you are qualified to retune your car, then have at it."
"1. Globally adjusted timing tables.
2. Glitchy software that sometimes locks up your computer.
3. ZERO technical support.
4. 75% of the adjustments simply do not work.
5. No fine tuning of spark and air fuel."
"My experience at the dyno with predators is that they use too much timing and are too lean. And that's not always but a large majority of the time. When enough fuel was added to correct the situation things like load and timing were way off. This means that they are adding fuel in the base fuel tables. Another clue to this is adding fuel based on RPM ranges. The results to this is a tune that doesn't take CORRECT load and timing into consideration. This results in a dangerous non-adaptive tune. And a few of these things didn't change the final timing even though we pulled 5 degrees twice. Junk.
These are just a few of the reasons SCT perfers to make tuners this way. You want a CORRECT tune right?
And Propellerhead, your comments about not having any issues with Diablo's customer support means you haven't tried using them. It's essentially none exisitant.
Ed"
I dunno. Two well known tuners right there and their views. Maybe thats why they now use SCT and not Diablo.