Progress Thread Slow Boat To China

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  1. madmike1157

    madmike1157 the humor is still lost on me SN Certified Technician

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    I'll bet you find no evidence of difference between your's and your buddies. At least not enough to go through all of the rebuilding you're getting ready to bite off.
     
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  2. hoopty5.0

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    Meh, it's just something I wanna do. Pull up a chair and enjoy the show!
     
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  3. madmike1157

    madmike1157 the humor is still lost on me SN Certified Technician

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    Meh,...I just hate watching a movie where the main character dies at the end.:rlaugh:
     
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    Yup.
     

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  5. madmike1157

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    But,......it appears you have cut, spliced,...and butt welded almost every bend together:shrug:
     
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  6. hoopty5.0

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    Your
    gonna have to point out the obvious to me
     
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    I'm not opposed to the whole project, however when I look at the tubing I get a vision of the front end hitting the wall at about 100mph and it kinda smears to one side. I'm thinking a real tube chassis tied to the cage is in order at this point.
     
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    Well I can't tie it to the cage yet as it's still an 8 point (for the time being). The new frame rails are 2x2x1/8" and the tubing is heavy wall steel. I ordered a bunch of roll cage gussets yesterday as well that should be here tomorrow. I really think it's going to be stronger than the 18ga stamped steel stock stuff once the gussets are in.

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  9. MikeH686

    MikeH686 Mine is only two inches though.

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    Who said he's gonna hit the wall doing 100mph?
     
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  10. 84Ttop

    84Ttop They make new pistons every day, so why worry? SN Certified Technician Mod Dude

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    I sure hope that is tubing and not pipe... Big difference
     
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    yes im sure it is water pipe or small engine exhaust pipe:chair:;)

    Its lighter and will make the car lighter up front and faster:eek: !
     
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  12. MikeH686

    MikeH686 Mine is only two inches though.

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    That's right it will help lift the front off the ground!!
     
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    Well I tried to post a video clip, but imagshack is not cooperating. The front of the car is light enough for me to easily pick up. Not really worried about weight.

    And besides, I think we are kinda missing the point of this build. Hot Rodding was born from making stuff work out of your garage. I say screw paying thousands to have professional shops do the work for me. I have $3300 in this build so far and have full confidence this thing will be running 10s (at least) for under $10K.

    Will it be pretty? Noo. Will it work? Yes.
     
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    MikeH686 Mine is only two inches though.

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    That's how mine started then I got into the beauty thing hahah
     
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  15. 84Ttop

    84Ttop They make new pistons every day, so why worry? SN Certified Technician Mod Dude

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    I think you're missing the point. The car needs to be safe and in order to be safe the correct materials and installation practices must be utilized. What type of material did you use in the front end, pipe or tubing?
     
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  16. hoopty5.0

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    Well I meant to just mock it up with pipe, but have been unable to source any tube in Houston so I'd have to order it.

    You'll have to explain why there is a distinction to be made.
     
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    84Ttop They make new pistons every day, so why worry? SN Certified Technician Mod Dude

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    Pipe is measured in inside dia. And tubing is measured in outside dia. Tubing has a much different construction process, different strength and hardness for starters. For example a length of 1" sch 40 steel pipe from home depot could be easily bent by standing on one end and killing. You would be hard pressed to do this with 1" .120 wall mild steel tubing and I would bet money you absolutely couldn't do this with .083 wall chromoly. I'm not sure what size you have used but 1 5/8 minimum off the strut towers and around the front and 1 1/4 for the rad support would be sufficient. Long story short your safety is paramount and if you need help sourcing the right material I'll be more than happy to help you find it. I'll have to look through some old pictures I think I have one of a front end my buddy did a while back similar to yours.
     
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  18. hoopty5.0

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    Good to know. Can I bend this tube with my bender or will I need to use a mandrel bender? I could also use a source on tubing since it is unavailable locally (as far as I have found)
     
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    84Ttop They make new pistons every day, so why worry? SN Certified Technician Mod Dude

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    The 90 degree bends are tough without the right size dies and a bender like the jd2. I have seen guys bend tubing with a harbor freight bender but there are a few tricks to doing it without kinking the tubing. I remember a while back seeing a few videos on YouTube of guys getting the harbor freight bender to work. I'm not sure which type you have. What type of welder? 110 or 240 volts? I'm sure you have a grinder and I know harbor freight sells a tubing notcher for making the fish mouths pretty cheap, I used one for a long time and still have it somewhere, I have since upgraded though. I know aed motorsports ships all over the country but ill look to see tomorrow if I can find any place in Houston that has it. It will be much cheaper if you can pick it up somewhere. The design you have looks to be good I like the bars the kick off the strut tower to the frame rail. Once we get you the right tubing you'll be in awesome shape!
     
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    I guess that all depends on your tubing bender. If you have one of those benders that uses a bottle jack and came w/ various dies as a whole unit, then you'll probably experience kinking as the mandrel will not be a tight enough tolerance wise to hold the bend tightly enough. The whole "What happens when you hit a wall at 100 MPH?" is a dumb argument anyway, as I'm pretty sure the stock stuff would wad up like chewing gum as well. I still scratch my head and wonder what you think you're gaining by doing this, citing "extra clearance benefits", especially since you intend to use a smallish LS engine under the hood in the first place. We all know there is enough room in the stock configuration to fit a 460 oinker in there, w/ room for 3 little pigs too.
    I guess my new question is how are you intending to mock up mount points for the front sheet metal w/o stock reference points?
     
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