Tyler said what to you? I do not recall saying a thing to you. I simply stated that I was reminded why I did not come to this forum anymore. The state of this forum is in serious disrepair. At no point did I say, "gee, pac makes me not want to be here". as a matter of fact, I have always held you in high regard and have never said a negative thing about you. But I suppose I had it coming. I sure hope that I am faster than the door.