SSBC Rear Disc and E Brake

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  1. Pbum5

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    Just wondering how people got the E brake to work with the SSBC rear disc kit?
    Is it better to use a lever like the Lokar system?

    Looking for ideas and pics if you got them.
     
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    They won't work.....it was a bad design from the start that's why they went back to the "drum type" parking brake. I exhausted a lot of time and money and replacement calipers before I found this out and left them disconnected. If you adjust them to work they will drag and overheat your calipers. I finally switched to Ford Explorer disc brakes and they work great in both areas. I'm not a fan of SSBC and think their products are substandard. IMO
     
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    If what Huey says is correct, which I have no reason whatsoever to doubt, then I do know of one option, although I don't know where to get it or what it costs. A few years ago, my mechanic was building a Cobra kit car with a Versailles rear for a customer that had a driveshaft mounted disk emergency brake. I got to know the guy who was having the Cobra built pretty well, and it was my understanding that this system worked well, but I will defer to others who have used this system and may have a different opinion. If I recall correctly, it was a MidStates Cobra kit, but I don't know if he got the e-brake kit from them.
     
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    Man.. That’s not good.. Huey, you actually helped me along when I had some alignment issues with my brake kit..

    Ok well I have been leaving it in gear and using a wheel chock when I park it.
    I guess I will have to keep doing that from now on…

    How did Mustang SVO's get the E-barkes to work because arent they the same calipers?
     
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    You know, I just did this with the Lokar ebrake kit. I have the separate SSBC polished caliper and I did get it adjusted just fine. Works for me anyway.

    I waited a long time because I couldn't use the stock equalizer bar set-up because of the xpipe exhaust I have running under the TKO.

    I had the immediate need because the car was being picked up by a trucking company and I didn't want to send it without the ebrake.

    I did it pretty quick so I didn't get a chance to take any pics. It's now on it's way to St Louis.

    The Lokar kit was kinda spendy but I've heard of some guys using fox body ones.
     
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    So did you take it on a long test drive before you shipped it? When I adjusted mine in the garage it worked but as soon as I went on a long drive they started to drag because the piston must be manually adjusted out to get the e-brake to work. This increased drag heats up the rotors causing them to expand more closing up the gap causing major overheating and caliper failure.
     
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    The initial adjustment will cause drag. But Im assuming it's just the same as adjusting a drum brake system. You adjust it out until it has drag, then they will cut a groove and break in.

    Again I just hooked it up and it worked fine. Your experience may be founded. We'll have to see where it all goes.
     
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    I have SSBC brakes on the front and rear and I also have an emergency brake. I am using the original style hand brake (1965).
    I had this installed when the car was built. The builder had to work at it for a while but it does work great and there is none of the drag on the rear caliper that others are mentioning. Personally I wish that I had opted for a tunnel mounted e-brake as I like the look. Instead I mounted my fire extinguisher
    in that location :nice:
    Scott
     
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    Ok.
    I’m getting some mixed signals here.

    MDJay and Steemin do you have the SVO rear brakes?
     
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    Easier to show...
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    Yeah. Nice setup.

    That is not the SSBC SVO brake kit.
    Steemin do you have the SVO kit?
     
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    mdjay: That's not the set up I am referring to. The set up I am referring to the e-brake is built into the single piston caliper.
     
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    Well that makes more sense as to the symptoms you were explaining.
     
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    I have used the Lokar cables with my ssbc rear disc kit. The rear calipers are 88' t-bird. I used the original mustang pedal type parking brake actuator.
    There is no drag whatsoever. I had to make a custom junction, and mounted it to my subframe connector on the driver side. I am not sure if I took pics, as It was a long and frustrating day! I will take pics, and post them here. Just to set the record straight though. There is absolutely NO Support from SSBC!!!!!
     
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    I was not aware that the SSBC brake calipers are the same as the SVO:shrug:

    I have the SSBC 4 wheel disc brake complete system installed on my 65.
    4 piston in front and a single piston in the rear.
    e-brake cable runs to the 65 style (mounted under dash) hand brake lever..
    I have not experienced in issues..
    Scott
     
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    If you ask for replacement brake hoses, or pads for the SSBC single piston ( rear caliper ), they will tell you to go to a parts store and get them for a 88 turbo coupe!
    I had a set of currie axles made for my 70' 9 inch so that I wouldn't have to use the wheel spacer. I bought the SSBC kit in 99', although I don't think it has changed much. I would have to check my notes to find the LOKAR cable kit number. The front OEM parking brake mechanism retains the OEM style front cable. I made a special turnbuckle to attach the parking brake front cable to the Lokar set up. It's a clean, efficient, and functional set up that works! If I could figure out how to post the pics here I'd be glad to share it.
    I had to engineer a lot of other stuff for this car also, like EFI/351C, EPEC, TKO,Slide -a - link, A.C. ect.
     
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    OK,
    I’ll have to crawl under my ride and try to see if I can figure out a way to make them work.

    Any pics you guys have would be great.
     
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    I can send you pics, but I have not figured a way to post them here yet.
    I can probably save you some agravation.
    R
     
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