State of Maine Rejects gay marriage

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  1. Venom351R Founding Member

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    So our democratic legislature and democratic governor took it upon themselves to make gay marriage legal here in the state early this year. That did not stand to well with many of the citizens in the state so it went to the ballots last night so the people could decide. Just so your not confused voting yes rejected it b/c "Yes you want to over turn the current law"

    I Know its not a real news source but.

    Maine Voters Reject Gay Marriage Law - FOXNews.com



    What really pissed me off about all of the gay marriage supporter TV ads is that not once in any of their ad's did the mention the words, Gay, Homosexual, lesbian. They used the term "Marriage equality" Marriage equality for all Maine families and when they showed these Maine family's in their ad's it was a Man a Women and a son or daughter. Not once they did they show female/female, Male/male and a child. They could not even utter the words home sexual, gay or lesbian yet they wanted to make it legal in this sate? Im just glad that it was not even close. Hopefully that keeps the fruity people away from trying to do this again anytime soon. I know for sure it will be back eventually


    This was also on the ballot, I didnt vote for it.
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  2. jikelly Well-Known Member

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    Such bans on gay marriage are ridiculous. As far as I'm concerned they are unconstitutional and should be thrown out of the books.

    It's just another form of discrimination. And the issue is used to distract people from issues that are really important.
  3. Reimann Puss > me

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    I actually agree with Kelly on this. Who cares if they get married? It doesn't hurt anyone if they do so why stop them?
  4. RookieOne Founding Member

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    I'd argue that this is a perfect example of how the Constitution was intended. More to the point, a perfect example of the 10th Amendment :

    While I won't comment at all on the issue itself, I truly believe that such issues are, and should be, left to the individual States and voters of those states, per the Constitution.

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  5. strtrcr50 New Member

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    Hmm... Everytime it comes up for a vote, it is voted down. Are you guys saying we should ignore the votes of the public and institute what policy you feel is right/politically correct?
  6. jikelly Well-Known Member

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    Sure powers not defined by the constitution can be left to the states, but there is an amendment that deals specifically with discrimination and I believe it applies to the protection of an individual's right to marry a person of their choosing.

    There were laws on the books in many states that prohibited my marriage to a person of a different race. Those ridiculous laws were finally struck down and it took an amendment to end that BS.

    Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  7. Reimann Puss > me

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    We're bashing the bigots that voted it down, not the system.
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    Who are you to impose your morals on the majority of the public? It would set an interesting precident to ignore the will of the voting public to base policy on what the minority felt was the proper policitally correct choice.
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    FWIW, I don't really have a dog in this fight. I could care less either way. The only strong opinion I have is that the church should not be forced to marry gays. Also, I have a problem with special interest groups trying to overturn the vote of the general public.
    Using my good friend 6stang7's logic, since the constitution and the bill of rights do not show that there is a right to get married, there is NOT a right to get married. According to him, that is a FACT!
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    If we DO decide that this vote was based on the bigotry of the voters and overturn it, what else can we make the same judgement call on and overturn in the name of political correctness?
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    my only problem is that every time the issue of gay marriage come up in front of the voters, it is voted down, and the gay lobby then takes the law to court, which is their right, to get the election results overturned. they are even trying to do it with californias constitutional amendment. the problem with gay marriage is that other groups start pushing their agendas, groups like namlba for instance. it also raises the issue of what laws voted on by the public can be overturned by the courts next? this is a real slipperly slope we are on right now.
  12. strtrcr50 New Member

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    Exactly. When we decide that the morals of the minority group should overturn popular vote, it opens a huge can of worms. Who's to decide the proper set of morals if we allow the popular vote to be discredited.
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    You don’t have to be a bigot to be against gay marriage. There’s a reason they don’t want to accept the same legal rights in a union called something other than marriage. This has more to do with a moral and religious struggle than rights.

    The desire is to become more mainstream and excepted with a backdoor :) attempt to discredit a long help religious belief.
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    Any law that intrudes on your right to marry a person of your choosing should be struck down as unconstitutional. The state has no right to tell you who you can or can't legally marry.

    Gay Marriage and the Constitution - WSJ.com
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    You have no right to get married.. If I am wrong, please quote the constitution or bill or rights.
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    I was unaware that changing the definition of a word was a constitutional right.........
  17. Reimann Puss > me

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    How is letting one group doing something "imposing morals" on anyone? Those that keep voting it down are the ones imposing morals.

    I'm not really passionate about this either I just don't like the government restricting people unnecissarily. And since I am unemployed and don't have anything better to do (besides search for a new job) I might as well argue this :) I don't see this as a "Church" issue as you don't have to go through a church to get married. Generally, marriage just gives someone else rights to your assests and can make decisions for you.

    Once again, it doesn't have anything to do with the "church." Jews get married, Muslims get married, aethists get married, Scientologists get married. Those don't discredit "the church" do they? Why should gays getting married discredit it? And your jab at this being a "backdroor" attempt does show your bigotry.


    I guess in short you guys are looking at this from a religious angle while I am looking at it from a legal one. You guys see it as a offense your beliefs that being homosexual is a sin while I look at it as legal oppression.
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    You mean the definition of the word marriage?

    I've no desire to see churches forced to marry people who aren't an accepted part of the congregation. But, I've no desire to live in a country that upholds discriminatory practices as law.

    I don't see these same sex marriage bans as being anything other than the legalized oppression of a minority group.
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    Never said it did..................and don't think it does.



    IMO Gays should be able to "join legally" if they choose and be granted every right that a married couple have.

    Call it whatever you like, but don't call it something it's not.




    Really?????

    That's pretty lame Reimann!!!
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    Perhaps we should have a legal term for any legally joined couple, Homo. or Hetero.???

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