The clock is still ticking on Afghanistan

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  1. D.Hearne Banned

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    And Nobama STILL can't decide on what to do. WHAT A LEADER !!!!!:nice: But he's got time to fly to China and bend over for the leader there. :hail2:;)
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    Well, you know, there are, um, so many really important issues at hand, that he, um, really just doesn't have time to, um, deal with Bush's war right now. :D
  3. jikelly Well-Known Member

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    He better make time to deal with the first of the Bush wars. Granted we've really stepped in it now though.

    Afghan minister accused of receiving huge bribe - Washington Post- msnbc.com
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  5. jikelly Well-Known Member

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    That was Iraq, not Afghanistan.
  6. strtrcr50 New Member

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    Oh. We're out of Iraq?
    And I thought 0 said Afghanistan was a good war. Might want to make a decision.
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    Yeah, I must have gotten it confused with closing Gitmo and ending the policies associated with it. :shrug:
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    Those things are not happening as fast as I'd like, but, they are in process and that's a heck of a big improvement. Change I can believe in. :D
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    :stupid: In the process ?:rlaugh: You REALLY believe that B.S. ? It's been TEN MONTHS NOW. MY GOD !!! Good thing Nobama wasn't prez when WWII broke out. We'd STILL be fighting that one, 60 years after the fact, at his pace. :nono: And how do you call the situation in Afghanistan a "big improvement" Wanna explain that to some of the families of the guys who've been killed in the past ten months, while Nobama picked a dog and a swingset ? (among his other sucesses:rolleyes:) When my son gets deployed over there, I'll be sure and remind you of how things have improved over thre, EVERYDAY. And GOD help you if he gets killed because your BOY Nobama dragged his feet. :nono: Why don't YOU do YOUR part and enlist in the Military and do YOUR part to "help" Obama ?
  10. sphinx Founding Member

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    Hey, there's an idea JK. I seem to remember a couple of your posts about thing being tight. Re-enllist,:D

    And that's just the reserves

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  11. jikelly Well-Known Member

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    Nobama didn't start the war in Afghanistan, but I hope he brings it to a successful conclusion. My hope is that the outcome be a strong, free, nation and a valuable ally in the region.

    I agree that our president needs to make a decision on Afghanistan soon. However, I remind myself to be patient because the pres should take his time to review and make a sound decision that gives us a strategy that leads to success. That is much preferable to the halfhearted planing and execution of the war carried out by his predecessor.

    Had a certain administration done a better job of planing, and not forgotten they needed to win there first, well our soldiers would be facing a much better situation in Afghanistan if they were still needed there at all.
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    I wouldn't be able to serve even if I did Re-up. My wife would kill me when she found out I was leaving her alone to deal with a 16 year old. :flag:
  13. GT40XStang9 Thanks to Tim, I get off pretty easy.

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    Can't the same be said about Iraq? ...The country you didn't even want to be a part of?

    You should face the facts that there have been more Afghan war casualties per year (almost double) since Obama took over than during previous admin. Now one could say this is due to high productivity in the area, but I've yet to see this conclusion reported, stated or otherwise noted. You jump all over the previous admin, but if things don't change, you'll conclude it was poor planning at the beginning of the war - never the fact that it's just hard to show up on Afghan's door step to pick a fight. Based on history, I imagine even O will relinquish responsibility.
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    Are you really that dense to think this? When Bush didn't act the next day, he was hung for it. When Obama doesn't act the next day, you say "Well it's good that he's taking his time and thinking it over".

    As Wart would say, How stupid can you Lefties be?
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    The surge in Iraq worked tremendously even though all the lefties said it would never work. Even Obama was against the surge. Now here we are stuck in the mud needing troops and Obama won't deliver. Can't learn from history........or you have a really short memory Kelly.
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    True casualties in Afghanistan have increased since Obama took office. But, consider that the situation was deteriorating there long before his election campaign began and since he took office he has increased the number of troops in that country.

    Poor planing at the beginning of the war, and poor execution (because we pulled resources away for a side project) during the previous administration led directly to the very poor situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan today.

    However, the Obama administration has to take all that on the chin and develop a strategy that gets us positive results, protects our interests, and fully supports our troops on the ground.

    If he can't do that I will be very unhappy.

    I will give him time though. I gave Bush time.
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    I am glad the surge worked, but I too was against it at the time. Because the admin failed to do anything right before I didn't have much faith they could turn things around.

    If we are committed to Afghanistan, then we have to be fully committed. I know the decision has political ramifications, but I want Obama to do the right thing. I my mind that is to give Gen. Stanley McChrystal everything he needs to do his job. That's going to put a lot of kids in danger, but it's probably our best course of action.
  18. GT40XStang9 Thanks to Tim, I get off pretty easy.

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    My point is that when that happens and you'll be unhappy, both you and Obama will still have been right while Bush was still wrong. Which will only be based on trace amounts of logic.
  19. jikelly Well-Known Member

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    It seemed that Bush was rarely right.
  20. strtrcr50 New Member

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    :rlaugh: Hoping for change you can believe in? BTW, you did it first.

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