this edit is a worthy laugh! Agreed - a bunch of the old guys are gone that were great help. Remember that gay dude Vrylokacalafragulisticexpealadocus Angel? You know Stangnet's 2.3 board has been boring for ages, but Turboford has been slowing down the last several months (no offense to Clay). I hope that changes. I think after we read every possible subject in turboford land it just get's harder to find anything new of interest. I mostly stay in the talk sections now.