UFC 91 Couture VS Lesnar

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  1. Venom351R Founding Member

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    Who's watching? Thoughts on the Main Event or any other fights?


    Id like to see Nate Quarry win again tonight and as far as the Main Event will this be the fight where Randy's age shows? Or will he shock us all again? Despite his age can his experience over come Lesnar's youth size and inexperience?
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    I'm gonna watch.....as much as I'd like to see Randy win.....I'm afraid Brock will win. Not sure if this was the best opponent or if Brock should have earned his way up the ranks this quick.


    I bet the Spider would kick his ass though :D
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    Randy will eventually be all done but I dont want to see him go out like this. I have nothing against Lesnar hes an accomplished wrestler as much of the MMA fighters are I just think they pushed him through the ranks really quick.

    As far as Anderson I dont think there is anyone in any weight class that can beat him right now. I consider Franklin to be one of the best fighters in the UFC and Anderson just pwnt him. No one seems to have an answer for this guy
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    "The next Big Thing" will be tapping out in the first round by a serious arm bar. Randy is so fast on the ground that i don't believe Brock has time to pummel him with his wrestling moves before Randy submits him. But, it will be a joy to see. God forbid Brock actually land one of those big bear claws square on someone walking into it, could be very bad. He will eventually be the king of MMA, but not until he gets a little more brazillian in him, or maybe gets into a few more brazillians, one of the two.
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    Boy, you couldn’t have called that one more wrong, could you? :D

    Great fight. I do agree that Lesnar got that title shot far too quickly, but I would blame that more on the greed of Dana White than Lesnar himself. It just goes to show you what lengths White will do to get a headliner on the card.

    People will boo Lesnar, but IMO he did no wrong. He worked for the victory and it was well deserved. I think the fact that Randy is well liked amongst the sport had more to do with it than Lesnars performance. I don’t think it will matter how accomplished Brock Lesnar becomes over the next few years, there are going to be people out there who will never accept him because of his past WWE ties. They’ll always look at him as a publicity stunt no matter how many opponents he bowls through. I personally like him a lot and think he’ll make a great champion….as short or long lived as that may be?

    To be honest though, there was no :bs: by either fighter and I thought it was a great effort from both competitors to the end. IMO the fight was allowed to go on far too long once Randy started taking those punches to the head. Any other fighter would have been called out in the first 3-4 seconds after taking that many unanswered punches (Shamrock vs. Ortiz comes to mind), but Steve Mazzagatti let it continue for what seemed like an eternity. I didn’t count the blows, but if seemed like a good 20-shots to the head. Waaaaay too many if you ask me? I can only assume it was of respect for Randy's accomplishments in the ring, and leeway was given in order to give him additional time to make a move....only that move never came.

    Brock looked as surprised as anyone that he won and I think he accepted his victory with class, just as Couture accepted his loss with grace.
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    I have no problem w/ Lesnar. He has an accomplished wrestling back ground. He will use his size and power to his advantage until his skills do improve. I agree that some will never accept him but I dont see him as a side show circus act. I think he portrays himself quite well. I dont see him as cocky or arrogant.

    Randy was given more time just b/c of who he is. Hes given every last second possible in order to show that the fight is or is not over. In this case it was over. Being a championship fight they dont want any foul calls after the fight of it being stopped to soon.

    IE: Herb Dean with Ortiz and Shamrock
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    Yeah, I recalled that. I was just using it as an example how quickly their fight was called under the same circumstances by comparison.
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    Sucks...too bad for Randy, but i think age has just cought up with him. I think Brock might just be the ultimate ground and pound figher...the guy is just so damn big and fast for his size. I didn't see his other fights, the one he lost, did he get submitted? I'd like to see that...a guy his size go down by a really technical submission. I was hoping Randy would pull it off but i think from what i've heard (haven't seen the fight yet) Brock earned it so props to him.

    I don't knock the guy, but eventually he'll get paired up with someone in their prime who has real MMA skills and we'll see how well Brock fairs.
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    Frank Mir submitted him by ankle lock. Mir got rocked and went to the ground, Lesnar jumped on him but Mir was able to protect himself and Lesnar spun around and when doing so left his leg out, Mir grabbed it yanked on it and Lesnar tapped
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    I really think the reason Lesner got the shot at Couture was because of what happened between the UFC and Randy. It seemed like he either beat Brock and continued on or he was gonna get his ass kicked by some guy that had only had 3 pro fights. Not taking anything away from Lesner but if I were Randy I think i'd be a little embarrassed to be beat by some guy that's this green. Isn't Randy the one that wanted to fight Fedor? The guy who's supposed to be the beast Heavy weight in the world and gets beat by a rookie? I really like Randy and he's proven to be a great fighter but I think Dana had motives (aside from Money) the drove this. That's just a guess on my part though.

    Now how do you guys think Brock will fair in his rematch with Mir or a fight with Nogueira? I honestly think he had Mir beat in their 1st fight. A lot of people that I talk to thought it was over when they pulled him off Mir for punches to the back of the head. I'm sure he's not going to want to go to the ground with either of them after what happened with Mir. I don't see Mir or Nog being able to take him down. Do you think he can survive standing with eith of them?
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    Its not the fact that randy lost to a "rookie" its just that Lesnar is so damn big. Randy has fought big guys before, Sylvia and Gonzalez but even they are not the same class as Brock Lesnar Big. He probably walked into the octagon anywhere from 280-300 after weighing in at 265/ Randy has all the skill and experience to beat someone of Lesnars experience but the factor of his size makes it much more difficult.


    Id like to See a Mir rematch but Id also like to see if Nog has anything for him too. I also think Mir lost that Lesnar fight but what saved him is that he knew what he had to do when they were both on the ground and lesnar had no clue and left his ankle out as a gift for Mir
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    I watched the post fight interview and Mir asked Lesnar how big he was. Brock said he weighted himself just before the fight after he had re-hydrated and was 275.
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    Randys contract gives him an automatic rematch for the title.also dana white stated he will not sign fedor because lesnar would destroy him. The fight was definately thrown so Couture could move on to fight fedor. Part of the agreement of randy fighting this fight was that the UFC would let him out of his contract if he took it. Look at the shot that dropped him it wasnt even a clean shot. Barely even hit him behind the ear. Brock Lesnar is a more marketable champ than anyone else in the HW division except for randy. Its a total sham and its sad to see it go down this way.
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    Have you ever actually seen the size of Lesnars hands? They look like a couple of baseball gloves in comparison to Randy's. During his first fight with Mir, they commentated on how Lesnar had to have custom gloves made to fit his enormous hands, because the current crop standard XXXL gloves wouldn't even come close to fitting him.

    Getting hit with a pair of Christmas Hams like that....even with a glancing blow is going to take its toll. I noticed nobody made mention of the elbow that rocked Couture in the first round either.

    Lesnar has big, powerful limbs that are going to do damage no matter where they hit you. Its like getting going toe to toe with a sledge hammer. It may not be pretty, but it gets the job done!
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    Why do some people think every fight is rigged?

    The punch hit him on the temple as well....a very sensitive spot of the head.

    I enjoyed all the fights that night. I think Lesnar won fair and square and both fighter's handled it with class.

    Lesnar is a tough opponent because he's so damn quick. Most guys that big are not that quick. He fights with almost the quickness of the lightweights. There are fighters that could probably beat Lesnar but one unlucky shot by those hamhocks and most people would be toast.


    How about Kimbo Slice vs. Brock Lesnar :D
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    I'll admitt...i was on the bandwagon cheering for Kimbo. I loved his back yard fights and i guess i put more skill to his credit than he deserved because i'm not at all impressed with how his MMA ability faired. I wouldn't think Brock would have any difficulty whatsoever in knocking Kimbo on his ass.
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    Kimbo Slice need to stick to impressing teenage gangsta wannabe's (no offence 85_SS_302_Coupe :D ) on youtube. He has no place in the world of MMA. :notnice:
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    I miss the old-school UFC from times past.
  19. Gearbanger 101 That's my secret, Captain. I'm always angry!!!

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    I miss the old David vs. Goliath matches from the early/mid-90's

    YouTube - Hackney vs. Yarborough - Extreme Sports

    Keith Hackney actually broke his hand during this fight and couldn't continue on through to the next match.


    ....oh yeah for all you new comers to the sport. UFC fighters used to have to fight more than once in an evening. :D
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    UFC 1 FTW.

    Competitors actually wearing Gis? That's pretty cool.

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