millhouse and nmcgrawj I was aware of the 500hp limit to the block, just out of curiosity on a stock bottom end what is forged and what isn’t? I heard only the crank but then I heard the rods as well but never could get the same storey twice. That whole other bracket of power, money, speed, etc I know is ridiculous when it gets to that point though you really gotta pay to play, that’s the name of the game though. So for the china intercoolers with all of the above read I agree with the both of you at this point and for $175 shipped you really can’t go wrong. The only reason I was talking such intercooler in the first place is because if it’s a constant project where you are looking for huge numbers eventually you would be better off to the money in the first time rather then having to replace it later. On another note I think another cool idea is a barrel liquid to air intercooler http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PWR-...33731QQitemZ8008407248QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW . (dont look at the price I know its ridiculous). Im sure you can find one for $200 used then its just a matter of a tranny cooler, water pump and just lines once again I think it is a cool idea and have heard its a very efficient way to do things. Tell me what you guys think and I know all new stuff on the net get expensive really fast I did see some one do it if I can find the link I will post it. It was all basically stuff from a junk yar except the intercooler of course.