This a simple, rational analysis of why cap & trade is irrational, ineffective, and will (like other government programs) end in dismal failure.
Well it's not about the Climate at all, it's about making some already wealthy people even richer as they can make money off the common american, many of these people are not Americans that may be able to benifit. There are some rich bastards who are looking to make big bucks out of this. Increase my prices and make money off me without actually providing a service and you better hire a good body gaurd and some protective equipment because if me or anyone I love goes cold this winter or goes hungry I'm comming after their asses presonally.
Then scrap the idea and instead impose heavy taxes and penalties on those energy corporations who do not upgrade, or build new power plants that meet mandated guidelines. Add to that a mandate that requires them to diversify their energy portfolio and move power generation towards "greener" alternatives.
Must be nice to live in TX. Me, I'm getting ready for a killer winter due to global WARMING and would really prefer not to have all the taxes passed along to me as I try to keep my house at 72 degrees. You can survive being hot. Cold, on the other hand, not so much.
Believe me, I'd love to move to TX. I'd be a millionaire. I had some guys from TX come out to do training and I took them to a Rita's Water Ice. They tell me there is no such thing in TX and proceeded to go nuts. Got multiple cups. If it were up to me, I'd be in Corpus Christie with 3-5 water ice stands. To have a water ice stand that doesn't have to close in the winter would be insane money. Just in case you don't know what I'm talking about,.... Rita?s Franchise Company - Home
businesses are only going to pass any taxes onto the customers. we need to encourage competition. take oil for example. i am all for the government creating its own oil company. cap profits at a reasonable level, and use those profits to pay down the national debt. oh noooooes! i am now a socialist liberal. take off the blinders. that applies to ALL politicians.
On the other hand, you used "reasonable level". What is a reasonable level? Is it a certain percentage? A certain amount of markup over cost? If oil cost you $1.00 a gallon before processing and you owned the plant, what is a reasonable profit?
the problem is that the constitution does not allow the government to compete with private industry. the government can only regulate industry.
Here's one instance where I'll have to side with Jikelly. Winters in Lubbock are no where near what they are in Corpus. It's a cold sum**** in the Texas panhandle in winter, far colder than Jersey. Hot sum**** in the summer too. Only difference now is Kellly's got thousands of wind turbines generating his power now, where Jersey doesn't. And guess who owns those thousands of wind turbines ? Same companies who are also into oil, gas and coal.
I don't know how to create a program that spurs competition and gets the energy corps to do what they should without heavy fines, mandates, or tax penalties. I mean it's like you expect the dudes to do the right thing even though it's going to cost them to take a hit on their profits. They have shown they are not interested in doing the right thing. Posted via Mobile Device
Your head's in the sand. EVERYTHING you espose that the energy compaines do in creating "green energy" is already being done. Wind, solar, biofuels, you name it, it's being done as you speak. All you have to do is open your eyes and get out and see the country. For starters, go do a search on "New Natural Gas" there you'll find that we now have a 100+ year supply of natural gas, right here in this country. And more is being discovered & brought into production daily. That's what I've been doing the last two weeks. 4 wells in Arkansas went on line in those 2 weeks. And That was just the wells I worked on.
In agreeing with the second sentence, do you really think the first sentence makes sense? If they are not interested in doing the right thing, why would they take a hit? They won't. They will just pass along the charge to you and me.. Moreso me. Seeing as how it gets down into the low teens here sometimes in the winter.
This I find hard to believe. I just looked up some average temps of Corpus Christi and it's not even close to what we get to in the winter here.
So how is this going to effect their ability to compete against a company in a third world that already has the labor advantage? Nobody else does either. Just take a hit on profits? How are they going to pay their employees? How are they going to keep the doors open. This BS idea that "just do it anyways" is scary because the president believes in it, nobody can tell him something is too expensive, we don't have the money but that doesn't phase him a bit, he signs the check even without the money in the account. "Hell, I don't need money, I've got a credit card". This communist idea that the oil companies should refine gasoline for free is nuts, it won't happen. I'll never forget how nasty I got with someone because he said to me "why do you worry about getting paid, whatever happened to the satisfaction of a job well done". Yeah... that's what we all get up and go to work for, so we can go home in ubber bliss because we know we did a job well. He is lucky he got to go home at all. All I asked for is to get equal pay to the other employees that weren't required to do as much as me, but they had families and "needed" the money more.
Kelly's in Lubbock, not Corpus. Big difference in temps. Plus the altitude difference........3500 ft.
They don't have the money?? Are you for real? Did you forget recent record profits in the energy sector?? What do countries in the third world have to do with how we produce energy to power the US grid? We are being screwed by them now, and our corp driven energy policy is irresponsible. This is another instance where certain people are trying to convince the country the best thing to do is business as usual. Posted via Mobile Device
Our corporation driven energy system is what made it what it is today. When you flip the switch in your house, do the lights and all other appliances come on ? Or when you pull up to the gas pump in your 70's dinosaur Stang, is there gasoline in the pump when you insert the nozzle in your fuel tank ? Or would you prefer to wait in line while some government beaureaucrat decides whether you NEED that power you're demanding today ? Profits are what keeps the power of the future there when you need it in the future. Without the profits the energy companies make, you will have no power in the future. That is a fact that you seem to not be able to grasp. Put the government in charge of energy and the only people who will have energy when they want it will be the government workers and politicians. Same way they want it with healthcare. They want to keep what we all have now and deny it for the general public.
also dont forget that there are now over 6000 alternative refueling stations around the country, and that number is increasing due to that silly thing called the free market forces. the people NOT the government is driving the demand for alternative energy. cap and trade will only hurt the economy, and hurt the people, and even hurt the government since tax revenue will drop.
