Why does everyone on here think.....

[Michael Yount]

Michael Yount also said that they weren't all that way - leaving room for your example. However, if you look at the records, the cars that are most often "loaded" are the verts. The odds are much better you'll find a bigger weight difference, not a smaller one. Which is why people often refer to 'heavy verts' - where this whole post started. Oh - just to keep it interesting - I'd bet that even a stripped down vert (if you could find one) would still be heavier than a loaded notch. Now, a loaded t-top - might be heavier than a stripped down vert. And so it goes....

 

[hbk_136]

I have seen a 3100 lb vert and a 3386 lb vert, and i'm sure there are many more out there, but i'm done controversing.

 

[USAlx50]

I personally just think that fox verts are ugly, Ive only seen a couple that looked sweet. just a personal opinion.....

 

[WantaGT]

i have both a vert and a hatch (both autos) and they ran exactly the same in the quarter.

 

[Ray III]

I don't care about weight. You can't get around the fact that they have no bracing except what you get from the floor, and the lack of a proper roof is only a good thing when it's sunny.

LX verts are really gay, the GT ones look good. Anyways I wouldn't drive one, not my style.

 

[iwashmycar]

I wish I had a vert, so I could hear it like i'm outside, when i'm inside...lol

 

[iwashmycar]

Sorry....double...

 

[sidewayzisbest]

Prob been mention but too many replys =P.....but, Its not that much heavier for fox's i belive the newer ones are a lil bit more but not too much. But when your at the stage worrying about wieght i think the stiffness of the vert is more of an issue

 

[91lxvert]

I don't care about weight. You can't get around the fact that they have no bracing except what you get from the floor, and the lack of a proper roof is only a good thing when it's sunny.

LX verts are really gay, the GT ones look good. Anyways I wouldn't drive one, not my style.

i find 4cyl n/a mustangs gay!

 

[90mustangGT]

Most people who buy "verts" are in if for the ride just to cruise. If you are to start a project for speed, a 'vert isn't the right choice. Coupe's are ideal. Most convertables people just do minor mods to make it sound and look good but very lightly modded in the drivetrain. Yes they can be fast but it's harder. Kind of like the SN-95's, they need more to run less.

Personally, I don't like riding or driving convertables. Sorry, hate to drop this on you but... I'm not into "with the ragtop down so my hair can blow", I feel too open. The other day I found a huge bird terd right above the the drivers seat on the roof, what if it was a convertable!

 

[87_GT_Vert]

Personally, I don't like riding or driving convertables. Sorry, hate to drop this on you but... I'm not into "with the ragtop down so my hair can blow", I feel too open. The other day I found a huge bird terd right above the the drivers seat on the roof, what if it was a convertable!

Haha, good point. I've never had a bird **** inside my car, I think they pity my ugly porno red interior.

 

[cjman15]

, thought i was the only one left who listens to him

Hell yeah, I love 2Pac too!

 

[5.0's 4 ever]

I really could care less about a convertible weighing more from the factory. I can make up some of those extra pounds by stripping off parts I don't need, for example A/C, smog equipment, and next is the plenum case. Also I can just add more horsepower. The main thing I don't like about my convertible is the lack of being a rigid structure, a six point cage is next to go in my convertible.

 

[cevtv]

b/c of the large rear lift-gate, mustang hatches have much less torsional rigidity than notchbacks or convertables.

Ummmm, why did Ford put the extra X-brace on the vert, and no other body style??????

 

[5.0 Nostalgia]

Ummmm, why did Ford put the extra X-brace on the vert, and no other body style??????

Exactly, and they suck anyway. I ripped mine off because it started rubbing against the swaybar. The brace is so weak I don't think it even does anything. I like your car. How did you find the production number for it? I have a 91 in the same color and want to know how many they made.

 

[Michael Yount]

Well, of course they put it in to try and restore some of the rigidity that was lost when the top was cut off. But lets face it guys, even the notches (much less hatches, t-tops and verts) have VERY flexible unibodies compared to the stuff that's being produced today. The bending and torsional stiffness of any of the fox bodies is marginal at best compared to what they're doing today - the standards that are acceptable in a new car have changed drastically. And when the top is cut off, even with the x-brace, they become extremely flexible. If in doubt, crack open the driver's door, drive one of the front wheels up on a curb and then try to close the door. You can try the same thing in a roofed version of the car - and even in them you'll get some misalignment. Anything at all you can do to shore up the unibody (braces, subframes, roll cage, welding seams, etc.) will significantly help handling AND reduce rattles, vibrations, etc. Despite the brick-like shape, one of the things I really like about mine is how stiff the unibody is, especially for a car built in the early 80's. It was that safety thing I think.

 

[cevtv]

Exactly, and they suck anyway. I ripped mine off because it started rubbing against the swaybar. The brace is so weak I don't think it even does anything.

I know what you mean. Just the fact that Ford spent the extra money to put it there should say something about how flexible the cars are.

I like your car. How did you find the production number for it? I have a 91 in the same color and want to know how many they made.

Thank you! For the '91 in the YX Titanium Frost paint code (numbers are for the 5.0L only):

557 Coupes
929 LX Hatchbacks
492 LX Verts
1,647 GT Hatchbacks
424 GT Verts

The numbers are from the book "Fox Body Mustang Recognition Guide". Great book, too!






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[5.0 Nostalgia]

Thank you! For the '91 in the YX Titanium Frost paint code (numbers are for the 5.0L only):

557 Coupes
929 LX Hatchbacks
492 LX Verts
1,647 GT Hatchbacks
424 GT Verts

The numbers are from the book "Fox Body Mustang Recognition Guide". Great book, too!.

Thanks! I will have to get that book.

 

[HISSIN50]

If in doubt, crack open the driver's door, drive one of the front wheels up on a curb and then try to close the door. You can try the same thing in a roofed version of the car - and even in them you'll get some misalignment.

they engineered a way around that - when a vert is jacked up, you dont open the door, you jump in it (over the door).

you are spot on, as always. i dont understand this whole debate, in general. people whom have verts generally did not buy them for the strip or for bragging rights necessarily. i would buy a stripped notch if that was what was desired.

then there are guys like Tom, whom have some pretty nice vert set ups - point being that anything is possible. a blower and some mods can make up for the extra weight on a vert. a whole lot of bracing can help with cowl shake and the like, as said.

whole point was, i dont get this whole thread. LOL. different cars have different uses. things can be overcome with mods, if more is desired. everyone is right - all unibody stangs leave a lot to be desired from a rigidity standpoint. we deal with it to suit our particular needs. it would suck if we all liked the same thing.

 

[blk92stangg]

It's basically a "my dad can beat up your dad" kinda thing. If I had a vert I would be a little miffed that people would assume it's slow.( but I would also mod the crap out of it so I can leave the naysayers in the dust)