X pipe or H pipe

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  1. AndyG47

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    Should I go with an X pipe or H pipe when I convert my current stock Y pipe to a duel exhaust kit? It will be awhile before I do this, but I want to get some opinions first.
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    I did neither for now when I added a 2004 Stock GT Exhaust to my 96 V6. I have not really noticed any performance drop at all. One muffler shop said that a x - pipe would be a good idea to have installed to minimize performance loss. But he wanted a nice price to make one for me, so I will wait till I upgrade the exhaust later on. Another guy I talked to said that a H-Pipe will make your exhaust sound louder...dunno about that. :shrug:
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    on most engines an H will give you more low end hp, x high end tq. ours it dont matter. x makes it louder. thats it.
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    mid pipes are ther to equalize the side to side exhaust gasses from each bank of the engine. Due to our firing order, we don't require one where as the V8 Stang models due.

    From what I know, the X sounds the best on sixes with catbacks, anf the H gives us a wee bit more performance. Either way, unless it is a stock GT system, you don't "need" an X/H pipe.
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    So MarvinMyCat, what your saying is that I am just fine running my dual exhaust the way it is now with no H or X? I do eventually want to change mufflers for more volume that the GT mufflers currently produce now. I was thinking about adding a X, but if it is not neccessary...bah...so be it!
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    because of the timing you dont need to equalize the two sides. if you have two straight pipes going right back to your mufflers and tails, then you're fine. for you a mid pipe will make it louder. bout it.
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    doesn't really matter but i have my custom bassani offroad xpipe :)
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    straight

    I have Staright pipes dualed from the cats on a 2001 V6.. i think it sounds pretty good, i also have the 40 series flow masters, i friend of mine drives a 2002 V6 with an X pipe and 40 series, not only does it sound hollow, it seems to drop the HP from his bottom end, or maybe not add enough to match my HP... hell- i take em at the light every time :spot: :spot:
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    You mean firing order.
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    I am getting a little annoyed at saying this on a lot of posts involving X-pipes and what REALLY happens in an X-pipe....here goes. Firing order is one integral part of the X-pipe advantage, but there is another reason to get an X-pipe even if your firing order is even like our V6s. When one exhaust stroke heads down the pipes, and meets the cross-over, the exhaust will spread to both ends of the exhaust, this then creates a very slight vacuum on the other side of the exhaust piping. This slight vacuum frees up resistance from the next exhaust stroke, which is on the other side of the motor (obviously), which makes a good flowing exhaust that little bit better. This pattern continues after the first exhaust stroke all the way until the driver turns off the motor. A great advantage about this is that since our 6s have an even firing order, this vacuum works to almost 100% efficiency, with the V8s and odd firing order, the efficiency is reduced to around 85-90%. So, a V6s even firing exhaust will ALWAYS flow better with an X-pipe if the same exhaust setup is used.
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    I'm not trying to start anything here, but I don't recall ever reading that from you before.

    Maybe because I stopped reading these kinds of threads. :shrug:
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    I haven't answered one of these in several months, but back when I first joined I probably stated that a good 8-10 times.
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  13. marvinmycat

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    Hence, why we tell people to use the...

    SEARCH BUTTON!
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    Yes, but people don't see that
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    lol, maybe we should have a tutorial, like the one on ebaumsworld.com or albinoblacksheep.com about posting on the steam forums,
    It is ALWAYS better to post in and existing thread than to START ANOTHER.
    Always read stickies, if you ask a question that was answered in a sticky, the other kids will laugh at you, you would want that now would you? hahaha -no you wouldnt-
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  16. ChrisYellowV6

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    [QUOTE='03 6-Speed]I am getting a little annoyed at saying this on a lot of posts involving X-pipes and what REALLY happens in an X-pipe....here goes. Firing order is one integral part of the X-pipe advantage, but there is another reason to get an X-pipe even if your firing order is even like our V6s. When one exhaust stroke heads down the pipes, and meets the cross-over, the exhaust will spread to both ends of the exhaust, this then creates a very slight vacuum on the other side of the exhaust piping. This slight vacuum frees up resistance from the next exhaust stroke, which is on the other side of the motor (obviously), which makes a good flowing exhaust that little bit better. This pattern continues after the first exhaust stroke all the way until the driver turns off the motor. A great advantage about this is that since our 6s have an even firing order, this vacuum works to almost 100% efficiency, with the V8s and odd firing order, the efficiency is reduced to around 85-90%. So, a V6s even firing exhaust will ALWAYS flow better with an X-pipe if the same exhaust setup is used.[/QUOTE]

    I never knew that! I learn something new every day!
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    It helps when your school has a windtunnel/air metering system to be able to test all these things in the same building as all of your classes ;)
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    [QUOTE='03 6-Speed]It helps when your school has a windtunnel/air metering system to be able to test all these things in the same building as all of your classes ;)[/QUOTE]

    So your saying that you have data and/or charts on the testing you performed on this issue? I would love to see that data...would be pretty interesting.
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