Misrepresenting? Your worried about that in a Mustang forum? wow.
Lets discuss all the invalid points you've made in this post.
Technically, you can't compare either cars at the moment on final hp numbers. 2010 mustang engine has not yet been revealed. Has everyone forgotten about the GT500? What's the hp numbers on that car again? Okay..and lets evaluate 22hp if that is going to be the final say so. 22hp with the weight difference and driver skill that is nothing. Having a passenger in the car will kill that advantage in any situation.
And mustang guys never spend any money to modify their rides either? Come on, your reaching. So let's see. 33k SS camaro with 6 speed, plus taxes and fun stuff the stealership likes to charge (because it can, as the demand will be high for this car), and your up to 35-36k. Plus you "3k" in mods...wow..your rolling round in a 40k plus car and have 500 hp...damn ..that sounds like another car you can purchase with warranty..oh yeah.. .gt500's. LOL! Or you can skip the gt500 and do a base mustang gt for 25-26k and spend oh say 13-15k on it and well..everyone knows what that will equal.... alot faster than you 40k camaro.
My point is, you can twist and change your argument anyway you want. It's been happening for years between the camaro and mustang. I'm just glad GM finally coming out with the car. This way my new mustang will be cheaper and better, as everyone knows, competition is good.
6 speed bigger engine power train has existed in the mustang since 07...again..gt500. And look at the prices of 07-08 gt500's now. Below retail and some in the mid 30's. Camaro will come out, just as gt500, and have 10-15k mark up on it. Losing your entire argument again on 500hp per dollar.
GM always has ford's number. Right. How long has the Camaro been gone, I can't remember?
Well mr. troll, we sure are glad you showed up to "represent" your precious camaro, because you have proved yet another point, you can't handle the fact that the mustang is still the better value. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted.
We value your envy. :SNSign:
before i begin im going to have to ask you to use logic before posting... otherwise this whole debate thing wont work. you cant explain to a retard hes wrong.
i already ordered my Camaro... from Camaro Scotty of WI for 1000 UNDER MSRP.
so lets recap.
32k, 422hp, 410lbs of torque, 6 speed, IRS, and a BETTER fresh design.
ok lets move on.
Now when i compared the 422 to the 400 its because someone up there said 'the new one will have 400' I dont know any more than you do. im going by what the ford fanboys in here say.
so back to 422hp...
32k... whats 32k + 3k? (the price of a cam/tune swap)
common... you can do it...
awesome, 35k. so for 35k im going to have a 500+hp 450lb torque, IRS, 6 speed, MONSTER of a car.
now i know this is a ford forum so let me specify, when i say 500hp, i mean 495hp which has been confirmed through dyno's.
(Now if you were to dyno the GT500's "500" hp, you come up with about 430... weird huh? so your 7k in the hole and 70hp down...)
Now if i were to supercharge the LS3, say another 3k.
so 35k + 3k= 38k
have you ever seen what f/I does on an LS3? your sitting on 600-630hp. for how many THOUSANDS less than a GT500?
So after all of this, you have a car which is faster than your 80k mustang, handles better than ANYTHING ford makes, has better gas milage, and still costs less.
Now if you take the route i will be taking, you spend 2k on weight reduction, your sitting at 3600lbs.
so 38k + 2k = 40k.
The Camaro has gone for about 7 years, and im not sure if you follow the world events, but GM has come out with some of the baddest cars in the world in its absence. now im going to suggest to Ford's engineers to stop embarrassing the mustang name and come out with a real car.
here is a little teaser for you. go to ...
www.Youtube.com, type in 'Ls3 Corvette' , the clip has the camaro's LS3, with the cam swap i told you about (the 3k upgrade i made first) which brings the dyno'd hp to 495. But its ok... the mustang has been here longer... LMAO.