Underside rust on my new 2010 GT500

[Top Speed]

Perhaps this vehicle in question has been exposed to road salts or such causing this premature rust.

Could be. I would just make sure that the interior doesn't smell of mildew, and maybe check the wiring under the dash or something to make sure it isn't rusted. If it is, that will certainly indicate that the car was a "flood victim."

 

[GarageLogic]

Guys, the rust is only one of the many issues we are finding on our 2010 GT500s. Mine is one of the better ones and here is my list so far:

1. major paint flaw on right front fender and is also documented on many more cars.
2. the new hood does not align properly, poorly designed, also documented on many cars.
3. My air vents are mis matched. minor problem
4. My rear bumpers do not fit on the left side they protrude 1/16 to 1/8 inch while the right side are flush.
5. The car is a total rust bucket underneath and mine is one of the better ones.
6. Many of the cars are having a shift problem from 1st to 2nd gear at high rpms.
These are the problems that are numerous and documented on a lot of cars. There are other individual cars with unsewn seats where the stuffing is coming out, bad damage in shipment and so on.

Excuse me for being upset about the rust but so far the 2010 is a bit of a disappointent to many of us. I love the way the car drives and handles but the quality is no where near what it should be for a $50,000 car.

steve

Wow, I guess I lucked out then, as my 2010 exhibits noe of the things you've listed other than the non-treated metal parts/rust. Of course, that has been present on the S197 cars since they were introduced. My 2005 GT had it, my 2007 GT500 had it, and my 2010 has it.

As for the "flood victim comments and such, I don't think Steve did a goo job explaining. The car is undercoated/painted on all the sheetmetal parts. The rust he referenced is almost all isolated to the rear axle housing. I think some people are taking his comments to mean, literally, all underneath the car, which is just not true.

 

[Top Speed]

Guys, the rust is only one of the many issues we are finding on our 2010 GT500s. Mine is one of the better ones and here is my list so far:

1. major paint flaw on right front fender and is also documented on many more cars.
2. the new hood does not align properly, poorly designed, also documented on many cars.
3. My air vents are mis matched. minor problem
4. My rear bumpers do not fit on the left side they protrude 1/16 to 1/8 inch while the right side are flush.
5. The car is a total rust bucket underneath and mine is one of the better ones.
6. Many of the cars are having a shift problem from 1st to 2nd gear at high rpms.
These are the problems that are numerous and documented on a lot of cars. There are other individual cars with unsewn seats where the stuffing is coming out, bad damage in shipment and so on.

Excuse me for being upset about the rust but so far the 2010 is a bit of a disappointent to many of us. I love the way the car drives and handles but the quality is no where near what it should be for a $50,000 car.

steve

I don't blame you for being upset, and I think you have every right to be, but honestly, go visit any Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lamborghini, Ferrari, etc. garage and you'll probably leave with all kinds of stories, scaring you away from any of those brands for life if you ever had any intention of owning one of them. It happens with the "big guns," too. It's a simple case of, "If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself."

Keep in mind that the people building these cars aren't going to be the ones driving them. The quality of your car is not in their best interest; getting them down the assembly line in a timely manner in order to keep their job is. It's their only interest.

It's been a known fact for years that the majority of American autoworkers do not take the pride in their work that the foreign autoworkers do. I don't believe for a second that foreign cars (or their parts) are better than those of domestic cars, but I do believe that their assembly process and quality control is.

 

[SS02]

I don't blame you for being upset, and I think you have every right to be, but honestly, go visit any Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lamborghini, Ferrari, etc. garage and you'll probably leave with all kinds of stories, scaring you away from any of those brands for life if you ever had any intention of owning one of them. It happens with the "big guns," too. It's a simple case of, "If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself."

Keep in mind that the people building these cars aren't going to be the ones driving them. The quality of your car is not in their best interest; getting them down the assembly line in a timely manner in order to keep their job is. It's their only interest.

It's been a known fact for years that the majority of American autoworkers do not take the pride in their work that the foreign autoworkers do. I don't believe for a second that foreign cars (or their parts) are better than those of domestic cars, but I do believe that their assembly process and quality control is.

My wifes cousin worked at Toyota Tundras Engine plant......make a short story short, Hammers on sensors so they would fit !!! Paid him 11 dollars an hour and he said it was the worst job he ever had. No one cared.....just build the damn engines...... He said he would recommend no one to buy a Tundra.

 

[Gearbanger 101]

See you guys,

Last post here

Steve

No need for the "I'm taking my ball and going home" attitude. We're all friends here. This is the internet....you can't be so sensitive about the little things.

 

[Five Oh Brian]

Sorry guys but they are going to have to take care of this issue for me. It is not acceptable.

Steve

They won't take care of it at the dealership as it is not a warranty problem (or even a problem of any kind). It is just how the factory builds them and it will not create any long term problems. It may not be pretty, but it is not a defect so Ford is not obligated to remedy it for you.

 

[allcarfan]

wow....seriously...there is a thread about this?

Uncoated metal....it is going to rust. Hell, get some fingerprints on some stainless or aluminum and you will see rust. Worried about it? sand it off and coat the metal. However, this SURFACE rust does not cause any problems.

 

[Top Speed]

My wifes cousin worked at Toyota Tundras Engine plant......make a short story short, Hammers on sensors so they would fit !!! Paid him 11 dollars an hour and he said it was the worst job he ever had. No one cared.....just build the damn engines...... He said he would recommend no one to buy a Tundra.

American autoworker.

 

[FordStang]

When I worked for a Cadillac Dealership someone complained about the rust on their front hubs ect on their new escalade, my shop foreman told me to Wire brush it and paint it. So your pretty much better off doing it yourself otherwise who knows who will do it ect.

 

[Top Speed]

Wow....Id be pissed to...ITS A SHELBY lol... I dont see why some arent getting it, this isnt a regular GT. This is FORDS FLAG SHIP HOTROD...COMEON.. This car is a collector !!!

Raise hell man...get together with the other owners and raise hell.

There is no sort of guarantee that this new Shelby is a collector car. I could say the same thing about my 1994 B4C Camaro. Since 1991 there have been less than 4000 B4C models built. For 1994, there were 668. Technically, I could say that mine is 1 of 668 and it should be worth a gazillion dollars, but it's not. It's just a conversation I enjoy having, and just telling people, "Hey, I have a rare car and it's 1 of 668 made."

The 2003 and 2004 Cobras have a better chance of becoming collectible than the new Shelby cars IMO. They're the ones that "wow" people. Not only did they not weigh 4000 lbs, but they had strong blocks that were stock with 390 hp and could easily be upped to over 500 with little to no effort, plus they had the IRS setup out back. The 2003-2004 Cobra is the best performing Mustang there ever was; period. It doesn't matter that the new Shelby is faster in a straight line.

The new Shelby cars are very nice, and I like them, but as far as recent Mustangs go, besides my "2010 wet dream," the sun rises and sets with the 2003-2004 Cobras for me.

Anyway, before I get too far off the beaten path, go to a dealership and make sure you have a video camera, because I want to see their reactions when you go to them complaining about a few brackets with surface rust on them. I'm sure it will make for good comedy. They're going to laugh at you, pat you on the head, and say, "Okay, you can go now. Come back when you really do have a problem."

 

[SS02]

American autoworker.

yeah I know, I was agreeing with you

 

[SS02]

There is no sort of guarantee that this new Shelby is a collector car. I could say the same thing about my 1994 B4C Camaro. Since 1991 there have been less than 4000 B4C models built. For 1994, there were 668. Technically, I could say that mine is 1 of 668 and it should be worth a gazillion dollars, but it's not. It's just a conversation I enjoy having, and just telling people, "Hey, I have a rare car and it's 1 of 668 made."

The 2003 and 2004 Cobras have a better chance of becoming collectible than the new Shelby cars IMO. They're the ones that "wow" people. Not only did they not weigh 4000 lbs, but they had strong blocks that were stock with 390 hp and could easily be upped to over 500 with little to no effort, plus they had the IRS setup out back. The 2003-2004 Cobra is the best performing Mustang there ever was; period. It doesn't matter that the new Shelby is faster in a straight line.

The new Shelby cars are very nice, and I like them, but as far as recent Mustangs go, besides my "2010 wet dream," the sun rises and sets with the 2003-2004 Cobras for me.

Anyway, before I get too far off the beaten path, go to a dealership and make sure you have a video camera, because I want to see their reactions when you go to them complaining about a few brackets with surface rust on them. I'm sure it will make for good comedy. They're going to laugh at you, pat you on the head, and say, "Okay, you can go now. Come back when you really do have a problem."

I disagree, I got a 35th LE only 3000 made, Ill bet that Shelby olds way more value then my SS. Fact of the Matter.......Shelby has his name on it... end of story.

 

[Fast05]

I disagree, I got a 35th LE only 3000 made, Ill bet that Shelby olds way more value then my SS. Fact of the Matter.......Shelby has his name on it... end of story.

It's still a production car, it's not a show car. It is made on the same assembly line as every other Mustang. Surface rust on parts of cars is hardly a big deal. I looked under mine today because of this thread and guess whaaaat??? Same things he posted pics of under his GT500 had rust on them. If you don't like it stop bitching, wire brush it, and paint it, end of story. Ford is not going to "fix" it because there's nothing wrong with it.

And only time will tell how "collectible" these cars are. If that's what he wants it for, then do the above, instead of wasting time at the dealership so they can look at you like you're crazy.

 

[Top Speed]

I disagree, I got a 35th LE only 3000 made, Ill bet that Shelby olds way more value then my SS. Fact of the Matter.......Shelby has his name on it... end of story.

And Shelby's name was also on the Dodge Durango, Dodge Omni, and Dodge Daytona.

 

[04YELLOWGT]

I think this guys full of s**t I have not heard any of the things he listed. I frequent tons of GT500 boards and i have not seen one post about these common "documented" problems.

 

[Top Speed]

I think this guys full of s**t I have not heard any of the things he listed. I frequent tons of GT500 boards and i have not seen one post about these common "documented" problems.

Dude, what's up with bashing on the guy? Same goes for the rest of you. WHY would somebody make up a story like that, and an absolutely STUPID one at that? Help me out here.

I really can't see what he would possibly have to gain from posting about how his new car is rusted. It's not like Ford is going to rip it apart, put it on a rotisserie, and paint the undercarriage in a nice, glossy finish. IF they do anything at all, they'll probably put it up on a lift, and put some rust-inhibiting paint on the brackets.

I personally wouldn't be bellyaching over it, but whatever. Some people are more particular about their cars than others. I'd personally just strike it up to a fact of life, and that's it. I don't think it's any sort of issue. It's not like the fenders are rusting or the paint's peeling.

 

[2010 GT500]

Interesting thread. I see both sides of this issue. Honestly, I don't understand why some of you members have to pick on him. We all judge by our own standards. Sooo, with that being said, I hope he has gotten it fixed.

 

[Top Speed]

Interesting thread. I see both sides of this issue. Honestly, I don't understand why some of you members have to pick on him. We all judge by our own standards. Sooo, with that being said, I hope he has gotten it fixed.

Exactly.

 

[Davis83]

Did he ever say he was from up north? I'm a ford tech as well and you can always tell who's from up north just by looking under the vehicle. Anyways my car had a Lil rust and it's a 2000, I sanded down everything rusty including the axles and painted them with rust paint, prob solved. prob with ford parts is that it cost extra to get the parts coated, the more money they put into producing the car the more they Jack up prices so they deal without.

 

[Gearbanger 101]

Did he ever say he was from up north? I'm a ford tech as well and you can always tell who's from up north just by looking under the vehicle.

You can also tell who's from the North by the way they don't complain about a little bare metal rust. Its just something we live with. As long as I'm not seeing daylight through the other side of a rust patch, I consider it workable.