Cool on paper, but in reality....You could make a small block Ford V8 run every bit as fast without near the effort...and not add a tonn of weight to the nose in the process.
....and it'll sound much better too....and not like an V12 with diarrhea.
I don't know if you actually read the thread, but you would be damn hard pressed to find a small block ford running every bit as fast as a twin turbo 510 CI viper engine.
As far as adding a "ton" of weight? Dude, its a TWIN TURBO 510 CUBIC INCH V10 ENGINE!
Thread and build are awesome!
Adam
I don't know if you actually read the thread, but you would be damn hard pressed to find a small block ford running every bit as fast as a twin turbo 510 CI viper engine.
As far as adding a "ton" of weight? Dude, its a TWIN TURBO 510 CUBIC INCH V10 ENGINE!
Adam
from a stock long block 302 with a PT-67 turbo, to a 331, to a 03 Cobra longblock with a T-76...and now this. Umm, the Viper guys are not all that supportive.haha...they don't like seeing their precious motors put to use elsewhere.
And by the way the car has been scaled at my buddies chassis shop and weighs in at 3,426 and has 52% of the weight up front and 48% on the rear which is pretty d@mn good. Go weigh your 95 GT 6 Speed with "bolt ons" and let me know how heavy it is...but at least you'll have the "V8 sound" and blend in with every other Mustang. Neat dude
Radiator was in place,and the hood is on the car if you look at the pic of it sitting in the garage, the full interior was in the car. The only thing that was not on the car are the turbo's which with plumbing will add probably 150 pounds. Viper motors are aluminum top to bottom so while their mass is much bigger they aren't like 500 pounds heavier. The car has a tubular K-member, coil overs, and that was on the Welds that it was weighed...find it hard to believe I guess
- I fabricated a k-member with lower center section to accomodate the height of the motor
- I I had to recess the firewall 10 inches to get the weight of the motor back far enough for the car not to excessively dive.
- I had to re-fabricate the trans tunnel
- Fab motor and trans mounts
- Fab the headers
- Fab the oil pan and pickup tube
- Make pedal assembly from scratch. The motor sitting where it does will not allow the the stock pedal assembly to work. You will also need to fab up a firewall mount for the clutch master cylinder as the Viper uses a hydraulic clutch
- I fabbed the shifter
- Added a 10 point cage in order to regain much needed rigidity after cutting the firewall
- I ran a complete Aeromotive fuel system with sumped tank and A1000 pump. A Stock Viper engine will be far too much for mustang fuel system
- Had to have lines made that mate the Vipers PS pump to the Ford hydroboost system and steering rack.
- Fabricate throttle linkage. Fab steering shaft that will reach the racks new location
- And of course fab literally dozens of odds and ends mounting brackets and whatnot.
Those Viper engines are uber heavy. For the cost of putting that Viper engine in, you could have built a 450+ cid all aluminum Dart block SBF, and it's going to make more power.
Kurt
Not sure why anyone would put a Viper engine into a Mustang...
Those Viper engines are uber heavy. For the cost of putting that Viper engine in, you could have built a 450+ cid all aluminum Dart block SBF, and it's going to make more power.
Kurt
Like I originally said. It's not the post practical, but to each their own. The major limiting factor to the Viper engine is the availability of better cylinder heads. That's something that is not easy to fabricate.
Kurt
I think the issue most of you are having is the power to weight ratio, which in my opinion isn't all that great. I'm no expert, but I agree with revhead on this one. I would have gone with the cheaper route. But don't get me wrong, the idea of throwing a viper engine in a car is cool. But when it comes down to it, I really don't want to do all the custom work for it. I would rather do something that take a bit less sweat and tears.