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85GTStangGuy
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Mine was 300 bucks for 30 lbs.
Not a player for 3000
Wait till you guys get a load of that new R1234yf
It sucks
Not a player for 3000
Wait till you guys get a load of that new R1234yf
It sucks
rednotch
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Epa is cracking down on it again so most don't want to handle it, rest are trying to make a killing on what's left of the market. Just had the HVAC guy here for tune up on an old r12 system that works perfect trying to push a whole unit replacement lol.
I just refilled my daughters R1234rf . Two cylinders and filler tube $100 on E Bay = Honeywell brand The stuff worked good. I think the dealership let the freon out, becuase I refilled it two months ago and its fine. It went out quick.
My 40 year old R22 house system works so good I don't ever want to replace it
Pete, I've been seeing compressor leaks out the wazoo with that new stuff
If yours leaks out again give it a good visual inspection and then replace the compressor
Pete, I've been seeing compressor leaks out the wazoo with that new stuff
If yours leaks out again give it a good visual inspection and then replace the compressor
They told us in screwell that as far as ozone damage and other environmental factors are concerned...
R12 would be 1000 on damage
R134a would be 100
R1234yf is .0001
They are allowing you to let that chit out
But that is not cost effective
They made it real expensive on purpose
R12 would be 1000 on damage
R134a would be 100
R1234yf is .0001
They are allowing you to let that chit out
But that is not cost effective
They made it real expensive on purpose
Dang, $999 for 10 lbs, $69.99 for 12 Oz is a local price check for R1234yf!
Coworker gave me this a few weeks ago. It's full.
I plan on siting on it in case I need it for my Mustang which is running R12
I plan on siting on it in case I need it for my Mustang which is running R12
That's crazy111Coworker gave me this a few weeks ago. It's full.
I plan on siting on it in case I need it for my Mustang which is running R12
R1234YF is a PITA to work with. At least with the RobinAir machine that we use.
It is oppressive. It is time consuming.
The Rep that delivered the machine talked about how safe R1234YF is.
It is so safe, that when released into the atmosphere it is inert in less than 2 min.
Which begs the question...
If it is inert in less than 2 min, why do we have to reclaim it?
Ummmm, Uhhh. Well,
You still need to reclaim it.
Really?
Yup. You have to reclaim it.
Well, that makes no F'n sense.
Them is the rules.
Well considering the way things are going in every aspect of our lives today, why not have more regulations that are stupid, just because.
It is oppressive. It is time consuming.
The Rep that delivered the machine talked about how safe R1234YF is.
It is so safe, that when released into the atmosphere it is inert in less than 2 min.
Which begs the question...
If it is inert in less than 2 min, why do we have to reclaim it?
Ummmm, Uhhh. Well,
You still need to reclaim it.
Really?
Yup. You have to reclaim it.
Well, that makes no F'n sense.
Them is the rules.
Well considering the way things are going in every aspect of our lives today, why not have more regulations that are stupid, just because.
Are they still going the R12 license thing?Coworker gave me this a few weeks ago. It's full.
I plan on siting on it in case I need it for my Mustang which is running R12
Last time they moved, my dad had a hard time finding a new home for a partial tank of R12 because almost nobody still had good gauge and hose sets. An implement dealership was finally the glad recipient.
I don’t think it’s that inert as it breaks down. I don’t know the reliability of who last edited the article, but it seems we keep changing one problem for others.
“In the atmosphere, HFO-1234yf degrades to trifluoroacetic acid,[22] which is a mildly phytotoxic[23] strong organic acid[24] with no known biodegradation mechanism in water. In case of fire it releases highly corrosive and toxic hydrogen fluoride and the highly toxic gas carbonyl fluoride.“
2,3,3,3-Tetrafluoropropene - Wikipedia
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I don't take anything Wikipedia says as fact.
That place has so much bias that it is propaganda, nothing more.
That place has so much bias that it is propaganda, nothing more.
Then use the citation instead.
CITATION
[24] Henne, Albert L; Fox, Charles J (1951). "Ionization constants of fluorinated acids". Journal of the American Chemical Society. 73 (5): 2323–2325. doi:10.1021/ja01149a122.
Yes. I actually took the test and got the EPA609 licence from Mainstream Engineering. Test wasn't hard, but i've always been the type to be able to read something and test against the material well.
Section 609 Technician Training and Certification Programs | US EPA
EPA-approved programs for technicians who service motor vehicle air conditioning (MVAC) systems. Any person who repairs or services a MVAC system for consideration must be certified under section 609 of the Clean Air Act by an EPA-approved program.
www.epa.gov
Lately though, when i scoop up a can or two at a decent price off Ebay, nobody asks to see it, and I don't offer. I believe EPA 609 only restricts the sale of small cans under 20 pounds to techs with a license. A 30 pound cylinder can be bought by anyone if you want to take out a 2nd mortgage on your house.
An yeah, 608 and 609 prevent the venting of ANY refrigerant other than CO2 based refrigerants.
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You need a cert to buy R12
You need no cert for the new stuff R1234yf
You need no cert for R134a
The certification process is the quickest easiest exam you have ever studied for
Every answer has to do with letting the freon vent to atmosphere
The answer is no not ever never
All 20 questions are like that. Just remember NO
You need no cert for the new stuff R1234yf
You need no cert for R134a
The certification process is the quickest easiest exam you have ever studied for
Every answer has to do with letting the freon vent to atmosphere
The answer is no not ever never
All 20 questions are like that. Just remember NO
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