I was wondering what were the best headlights without having to redo wiring or hooking up relays. do any of you have pics or part names and numbers.
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Whats the best headlights without having to upgrade wiring or relays?
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Cobain03
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i got the silverstars on the 65. they are stil sealed beam, but they are whiter then the "normal" headlights. i think they was...15 a piece? somehting similar.
how doe the h4 conversion work? do you just buy the 7" housings and bulbs and go or do you have to hook up relays? how do the relays hookup?
RGS0907
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Edbert said:
Are these legal in all states now? I remember always getting in trouble at the annual DOT inspection with my halogen replacements. Of course, they were always after us 'hot rodders'
Even standard Halogen headlights (nothing special) are going to draw more current than your old wiring harness and switch were designed to handle, even when new. I did that for a while and they were no brighter than the old sealed beams, until I upgraded to the relays.
Just my opinion, but it's like putting a$2000 heads on the short block, but leaving the 2BBl on top.
Just my opinion, but it's like putting a$2000 heads on the short block, but leaving the 2BBl on top.
They make DOT legal sealed beam replacements for under $10 that ARE brighter and whiter than the incandescent (sp?) ones were that do NOT require relays. But if you want the REALLY bright lights you see others running, or like the new cars, the factory wiring should be replaced.
I would argue you should replace the wiring anyhow, these cars are ~40 years old now and the insulation is hard and brittle by now unless your car has been in a climate controlled environment.
I would argue you should replace the wiring anyhow, these cars are ~40 years old now and the insulation is hard and brittle by now unless your car has been in a climate controlled environment.
65ShelbyClone
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RGS0907 said:Are these legal in all states now? I remember always getting in trouble at the annual DOT inspection with my halogen replacements. Of course, they were always after us 'hot rodders'
How could they even tell? Legal or not, you can still buy them.
Most parts stores have the brighter or halogen sealed beam replacements as said before. I've heard that adding relays will make even the stock headlights brighter.
65ShelbyClone said:
DOT approved light have the raised aiming tips, not found on the Euro code lights.
Unless you select a different bulb, most H4 bulbs have the same wattage as the original headlights, 55/60 if I recall correctly. Using these bulbs is the same current draw as the original lights. The difference is output comes from the color of the light the bulb produces and the quality of the reflector and lens. There are high wattage H4 bulbs availalbe, these would require relays or other improvements to the wiring.
CochinoFilipino
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Even the regular halogen lamps were too much for my original switch. But the newer direct replacement switch had no problem with them.
txwoody
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jb1dsl said:
Here is a good link. http://midnightdsigns.com/james/headlights.htm
Its not that hard to do we did in on a 79 F150 and it made a big difference. As soon as I get my stang back on the road I will be doing it to mine.
68rustang
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Check this out: http://www.modernvintageauto.com/index_files/page0006.htm
This MVA kit looks like a great pre-made solution. With any of the pre-made kits I've seen, they all use bullet connectors and plug right into the stock wiring. No messing around, no hacking, just bolt and go. With kits like this available, there really isn't a good reason NOT to run relays! At $80, I wouldn't even consider the Painless kit, as the MVA kit and a lot of the others out there are 1/2 that or so.
With that said, I prefer DIY for the sake of DIY, and I want to do it a bit differently. I'm making my own, along with a horn relay, on a bracket that bolts to where the Voltage Regulator WAS, so I don't have to drill holes.
HTH
--kyle
This MVA kit looks like a great pre-made solution. With any of the pre-made kits I've seen, they all use bullet connectors and plug right into the stock wiring. No messing around, no hacking, just bolt and go. With kits like this available, there really isn't a good reason NOT to run relays! At $80, I wouldn't even consider the Painless kit, as the MVA kit and a lot of the others out there are 1/2 that or so.
With that said, I prefer DIY for the sake of DIY, and I want to do it a bit differently. I'm making my own, along with a horn relay, on a bracket that bolts to where the Voltage Regulator WAS, so I don't have to drill holes.
HTH
--kyle
68rustang
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