gambi06 said:
With all due respect, if I wanted to play the nitrous game (again), I'd get nitrous. It's hardly the same thing! I was asking the question about AC to see if anyone has explored that option to see what, if any performance gains they've achieved.
As far as the tuners go: again, I am asking the why's to find out just that. Why?
Of course the companies want to profit from their product. However, in case you haven't noticed in the day of Limewire, Napster, etc., people are ALWAYS looking for ways to "try it before you buy it" so to speak. Therefore, I am SURE someone has learned how to hack their tuner to be "multi-car friendly".
-gambi06
I guess play the A/C game since it seems much more reasonable than the NO2 game
. I am pretty sure that if A/C could increase HP someone would have done it by know and put it online. I am not as SURE as you are about the tuners being hacked into, but even if someone did I seriously doubt they would post on here and tell you how to do it. SCT relies on the revenue from selling one unit per vehicle, so it makes sense that they would go to great lengths to make it difficult if not impossible to 'hack' them. I believe that once they were hacked if possible you would not be able to load new tunes into them and it would be alot of extra work. From searching for hacking the SCT and diablo predator I can find nothing very useful and the below quote seems to sum alot of the info I saw. The try it before you buy it is watching people run 13.2 with drag radials, a tune, and CAI, or looking at dynojet results. I guess if you are sure someone has spent the time, or the person that designed the things isn't bound by contract and enough money to not give it away for practically free then yeah someone has figured it out.
\
""Ok, here are your answers-I have been writing code, among various other things for 13 years on the Fords, and here is what I know to be fact. Diablo predators are still making global changes with their device, and not very much positive results come from them. They use those particular numbers, as referenced to their parameters, but the programs for those vehicles do not actually use those breakpoints, and they are also not the same on each one-while there are POSSIBLE gains to be had from them, a good deal of the specs they tell you are inaccurate, and are used mainly for flash in advertising, as I call it. Since you guys are on this site, I figure you all to be against BS and for meat and potatoes types of things, in getting to the facts.
As for the subject of descrambling or deciphering their deal on the standard red chips or predators, they use some sort of european, cold war-type scramble process, and flipping addresses and such do not work there. Or, at least, to put it to you guys, in relative terms, it's craploads faster, and cheaper to start your own from scratch, than reverse engineer it. This from many years of experience in this realm -it ain't worth your time.
For practicality, cost, and being able to access things like someone like me does, you are only looking at a 700-800 dollar investment to tune your vehicle to the degree you are looking for-I'm not telling you this to sell you anything, but I'm telling you, because it's the most cost/time effective solution for you guys, unless you have an EXTREME amount of time to waste, and by the time you get anywhere, we will all have been into CAN for several years. As I said before, I do not profit from it, hate BxllShxt, and know you guys can prolly handle it, so if you need more details about it, let me know."""
