Roush Subframe Connecter Question

[marcus95]

Sal,

Just make sure the shop that installs them has installed subs before. They need to know to grind the powdercoat off in the appropriate places. Most importantly is that they don't insall them backwards. I have seen muffler shop guys do that many times with subs. Good luck and you will be happy.

 

[sal07b]

Sal,

Just make sure the shop that installs them has installed subs before. They need to know to grind the powdercoat off in the appropriate places. Most importantly is that they don't insall them backwards. I have seen muffler shop guys do that many times with subs. Good luck and you will be happy.

Thanks Marcus. I'm not sure if the shop has installed them or not. Stupid question, is there any identifying marks for front/back of the SF connectors? In other words, how will I know which way is correct vs. which way would be considered backwards? I highly doubt these guys would have put these specific ones in on a mustang before. Not all of us have dozens of Mustang tuners w/in 20 miles of one anonther as you guys in CA do...

 

[2000xp8]

Sal, any chance you can find a chassis shop around you?
IMO, i'd trust them a hell of alot more than muffler guys.

 

[sal07b]

Sal, any chance you can find a chassis shop around you?
IMO, i'd trust them a hell of alot more than muffler guys.

I'll look around and see. I have a line on a guy that runs a shop here in town that comes highly recommended. Of course, that doesn't mean he's ever put a set of these on (or even seen a set for that matter...lol)...

 

[bill89saleen304]

Make sure whoever you have do it, knows what they are doing!!!!
The car has to be sitting on it's own weight, on all four wheels, when it is welded up, or you most likley won't be able to open or close your doors.
I had a friend of a friend weld his on, on a hoist with the wheels hanging down, and couldn't open or close his doors, and had to cut them off, and redo them when he found out the correct way to install them!
Just thought you should know this, if you didn't already, to save yourself a big headache!! Also consider boxing in your tourqe boxes at the same time, it's pretty simple to do, I did mine when I put them on my car!



See Ya Bill

 

[SVT Saleen]

Make sure whoever you have do it, knows what they are doing!!!!
The car has to be sitting on it's own weight, on all four wheels, when it is welded up, or you most likley won't be able to open or close your doors.
I had a friend of a friend weld his on, on a hoist with the wheels hanging down, and couldn't open or close his doors, and had to cut them off, and redo them when he found out the correct way to install them!
Just thought you should know this, if you didn't already, to save yourself a big headache!! Also consider boxing in your tourqe boxes at the same time, it's pretty simple to do, I did mine when I put them on my car!
See Ya Bill

The same thing almost happened to me & my '89. I originally purchased a rectangular set of connectors from a company who shall remain nameless (they are still in existence BTW). When the installation shop placed them up on the car there were huge gaps between them & the floorpan. We called the company & they said that the weight of the car had to be resting on the connectors to properly install them. Naturally the installer & I knew that this was the completely wrong way to install connectors so I sent them back & instead purchased the MAC tubular connectors.

 

[sal07b]

Thanks for the info! I wouldn't have figured the car would have to be on its own weight prior to installation. This is why I like this site. All kinds of good information...

 

[marcus95]

Sal,

JUst so you know the absolute proper way to install full length subs to have the car itself in the air and completely leveled with the wheels hanging. Like Bill said if the car is not leveled then the doors may not open. rookie installer mistake.

The only reason why the professionals install the subs with the chassis leveled and the suspension hanging is that not every car sits level on it's own wheels. you know spring sag in one corner and so on.

 

[sal07b]

Sal,

JUst so you know the absolute proper way to install full length subs to have the car itself in the air and completely leveled with the wheels hanging. Like Bill said if the car is not leveled then the doors may not open. rookie installer mistake.

The only reason why the professionals install the subs with the chassis leveled and the suspension hanging is that not every car sits level on it's own wheels. you know spring sag in one corner and so on.

GREAT! I'm giong to have to figure out where a chasis shop is! I can see trying to explain this to a person who hasn't done the install before. So let see if I've got it:
- Have to grind off the powder coating prior to welding
- Car has to be level
- May be under own weight (not necessarily level)
- May have wheels hanging (still has to be level)
- Have to ensure that the welder takes his time so not to heat up to much (carpet fire)

Oh yea, and definately have to hold your mouth right with tounge slightly to the left...

 

[TT91]

- Have to grind off the powder coating prior to welding

- May have wheels hanging (still has to be level)
- Have to ensure that the welder takes his time so not to heat up to much (carpet fire)
:

Get a wire wheel on some sort of grinder, dont GRIND the powder coating off.

Fill a spray bottle with water and dampen the carpet while hes welding.

 

[deezbluballz]

I had my local Midas weld them on for cheap. I have HPM subframe connectors. Made a ton of difference.

 

[sal07b]

Well, I got the Global West connectors and seat braces in on Thursday, and had them installed yesterday. The only hiccup was on the passenger side. I had my car shipped back from Arizona and the guy apparently torqued the crap out of the come-a-long's. He placed the hooks into the holes on the subframe and cranked the car down for shipping. Unfortunately, he bent the crap out of the passenger side rear, which made it a pain in the a$$ to weld-up the sub frame connector on that side. The guy that did the welding had to do a little filing, but it turned out pretty good. He even pained the welds afterwords to prevent rust (like the car will ever be in the elements to allow it to rust...NOT). Doors open/close fine. Unfortunately, it was raining today when I picked the car up, so I drove it straight home and put it in the garage. I'll post how I think it "feels" once it actually decides to be friggin Spring back here on Ohio...

Side Note: Pretty smart how they put the Global West decals in just the right spot so people can see them if the car is lifted...

 

[Tommy98016]

good to hear you did not have a problem like this guy

more pics can be seen by clicking here



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