I didn`t quote the rest of the $hite you spewed out as I`m not only one but 3 levels above what you `think` you are.
I drive for a living. I have every license there is. Trucks , buses, plant the lot. I`ve competed in rally competitively as both navigator and driver and have spent a fortune over the years on 4wd and RWD cars just to have the privilege to enter. When was the last time you went ditch hooking or used a hydraulic handbrake?
Recently I`ve had an Accord Type R and a Civic Type R and a Mitusbishi Galant VR4. SN95s don`t handle anything like these , Mitsubishi Evos, Subarus or the likes and to say otherwise makes you look silly. A stock Ford Focus from 1999 has an excellent chassis and FAR superior to whats on an SN95. Where I live (clue), handling actually counts with our narrow winding undulating roads with awkward cambers and hairpin bends. I don`t need some jumped up bum on a forum telling me otherwise.
Your idea of what handles and mine are two totally different things.
I won`t get involved in some nonsense argument with someone on the internet who has had a `modded civic` or is ignorant or clearly misinformed. I can drive the car. What I`m saying is I can drive other cars faster.
I love my Mustang for what it is but great handling car it isnt.
I'm sorry if my post rubbed you the wrong way. But reality conflicts with your worldview.
Where I live (clue) roads are covered in ice and snow four months out of the year. We don't just get flurries and the occasional icy rain. What you think of as "bad weather" or "bad roads" is what we deal with on the way to work every day. Get over yourself.
You owned a few front wheel drive vehicles and make some sort of claim of being able to "drive" while you modded your Mustang for straight line driving. It just tells me you don't know how to drive a powerful RWD vehicle. If you could, you'd recognize the platform you own and realize it is unmatched for the money for what it can deliver to to someone who can understand how to drive it.
AWD will generally be faster over the same course as a similarly power and weight RWD car. That's physics. Claiming that makes a Mustang handle poorly just
I grew up driving RWD V8 sedans, unlike you. I know how to drive vehicles you have spent very little time in. I grew up driving these vehicles on gravel, snow, and ice. Hence my perspective.
I modded my Civic for handling because it was atrocious from the factory despite all I heard from your type of bigot. I spent thousands on that POS and eventually traded it for a 99 Mustang GT because the Mustang was 100 times the car the Civic was in every category. The same cloverleaf (you don't have those, sorry) the Civic would manage to reach ~65 mph tops after all my efforts in braces, swaybars, tires, whatever. I was able to hit 70+ mph on the same cloverleaf easily with my Mustang. End of conversation.
A New Edge Mustang is the product of 30+ years of concentrated effort to make a 2+2 V8 sports car. Not a drag racer, but a sports car. You bought a car you have no experience driving, know nothing about weight transfer and specifically how to drive an actually powerful RWD car, and immediately deem it incapable. That's the difference between you and me.
You decided your car was over your head when it came to driving around corners and decided to mod it for straight line driving. Your perfectly valid choice, as the car is relatively light, has a V8, and is RWD, making it suited to drag racing. But had you experience driving something other than FWD cars, you would recognize the car for what it is - a very capable machine that because it is powerful and RWD, demands a greater attention to the finer points of throttle application and weight transfer.
But that would require you to recognize that you need to brake to transfer the weight onto the front wheels prior to turn-in, and apply the throttle with discretion, unlike your FWD wonders that at worst understeer when you give them too much throttle, and backing off slightly lets them bite and continue the turn. A RWD V8 car requires you to learn how much gas you can apply without losing traction and how to maintain your trajectory while the rear end steps out. How to integrate steering input, throttle input, braking input, and clutch and shifting while driving the car hard. And how to listen to your senses while driving. It's a much more complex coordination of skills than FWD or AWD demands. But the result is a faster lap time than the FWD car could ever deliver and a whole lot easier on the tires than an AWD car.
AWD is cool and I'm a big fan, but it is a different beast and I find it less rewarding. Perhaps because I grew up driving gravel roads with 4x4's and know how easy it is to carry corner speed when the power is split between four wheels instead of two and how nice it is to be able to tap the brakes when you start to push and then power the front back around in front and come out of the curve on the rugs while feeling the front wheels through the steering wheel pulling you around. But that's just me. I'm guessing that's also why you like it.
I'm not knocking people who use their Mustang for drag racing. Racing is racing. But someone who thinks the car was designed for straight line is ignorant. Thats a fact. Since day one, the car was intended to be an affordable 2+2 sports car, not a muscle car straightline beast. Just like a Corvette, it is really good at the straight line stuff, but just like a Corvette, was really intended for drivers who have broader horizons. A Corvette is on another level, but we can't all afford a Corvette. Hence the popularity of the Mustang on track days.
Way back in the early days of the model Lee Iacocca asked Carroll Shelby how to make the Mustang a handling car capable of winning its class in SCCA because that's what he envisioned for the car. Over the years it has generally been Ford's track car entry in racing. Ford campaigns Focuses in drag racing as much as Mustangs, and Mustangs in paved course racing and far-from-factory AWD Focuses in rally. Maybe I'm an idiot, but if the Focus was such a superior machine, why isn't Ford campaigning a Focus in AMLS? Maybe you should shoot them an email informing them that the factory Focus is a far better road course car than the Mustang?
Anyone who would wax poetic on the virtues of a FWD platform while denigrating a Mustang GT for handling is clearly either ignorant or a hamfisted driver. A RWD V8 car demands finesse, not the hamfisted inputs of an AWD car. It's OK to have a preference, but just plain ignorant to decide your preference is somehow superior in ability just because you lack finesse.
FWIW, racing is a great way to spend money. Spending money is hardly bonafides for driving ability. Nobody drafts drivers from rush hour or college parking lots. If you want to race competitively you have to bring a checkbook. If you want to brag about your checkbook, brag about your checkbook without pretending the size of your checkbook makes you a better driver. I drive my car every day, rain or shine, snow or sleet. You drive yours in a straight line because you cannot control it in a corner. Don't blame that on the car.
And I have a drivers license. I suppose that makes me a better driver than someone who doesn't, but since I do, I know for a fact that your internet claims of having drivers licenses for every vehicle under the sun is so much talk. So what? CDL licenses in the States are dime a dozen. So are trucks in the ditch. Get back to me when you can handle a powerful RWD V8 sports car on a road with corners, much less ice and snow.
You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to everyone agreeing with you. That doesn't make your opinion invalid. It just makes it a data point. And the data points to your opinion as coming from someone with limited experience with powerful RWD V8 cars.
But I'd buy you a beer if we ever meet. It's not hate, just give your Mustang a chance by looking at it as a back road machine that you need to learn and master, not something to dismiss because you are unfamiliar with how it behaves.
