1993 Cobra? Check this out ..

Black Foxx

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Sorry folks couldn't figure out how to make a link?, Just go to the seattle Craigslist and search 1993 Cobra, this comes up, I've been looking for a teal 93 cobra for a LONG time, this seems a little fishy though, 1990 GT Vin # ???? Sounds like a 90 GT shell with a wrecked cobra for the guts and drive train ? I emailed the guy I'll be interested to see what he says:shrug: Crazy stuff on the list.....:rolleyes:







1993 Mustang Cobra in Teal - $6000 (Lacey)

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Date: 2009-03-23, 10:52AM PDT



Up for grabs is my 1993 Ford Mustang Cobra in the rare Teal Metallic color. The car was purchased in December of 2007 by the previous owner and then sold to me several months ago. I purchased it with the intention of making it my new daily driver but have decided I have one too many project cars. 166k miles, gray leather int. No sunroof.
ENGINE :
Ford OEM Upper Radiator Hose
Ford OEM Lower Radiator Hose
Stant Thermostat
Ford OEM Heater Core hoses (both)
FelProValve cover gaskets
FelPro Header gaskets
Goodyear Gatorback Serpentine Belt
Remanufactured Power Steering Pump
Power Steering Pressure hose
Power Steering return hose
Remanufactured Rack and Pinion Assembly
FRPP Spark plug wires
Autolite Spark plugs
FRPP Distributor cap/rotor
Motorcraft PCV valve
Fram Fuel Filter
Coolant bottle
MAC chrome shorty unequal length headers (used)
BBK O/R X Pipe (used)
Borla Cat back w/3.5” tips (custom)
FRPP 24# injectors
C&L 76MM MAF
C&L Inlet tube
OEM (Not Reproduction) Cobra upper/lower intake

BODY :
Reproduction Driver door hinges (were sagging)
Reproduction Driver side weather strip
Reproduction Driver side door striker
Reproduction Interior door handle bezels
Reproduction Driver side exterior door handle
Reproduction Ash Tray Door replaced but not functional
Reproduction Console lid lock
Reproduction Fog Lights (2)
Reproduction Cowl Cover
OEM 1993 Cobra taillights
Cobra decklid emblem (not yet affixed)

MISC :
Yokohama YK520 245/45/17 tires ( less than 500 miles)
4 Wheel alignment and CVI by Les Schwab
Front brake pads ( less than 500 miles)
Oil Change
Coolant Flush
Transmission/Differential fluid check/top off
Interior professionally cleaned ( Headliner, carpet, seats)

I confirmed with the previous owner the car had been daily driven for nearly 6 years with regular oil changes. After seeing several oil/gasket leaks, the previous owner tore down the motor to the long black and regasketed everything on the way back up with a full FRPP gasket kit ( remainder to come with the vehicle). The paint is nice shape ( 8/10) but had several cosmetic items in the front end so the passenger fender, front bumper and both of the front skirts were reshot which appeared to have been rubbed by incorrect size tires some time in the past. A paintless dent repair specialist go over the entire vehicle, resolving ALL dents except for 1 in hatchback area that couldn’t be reached(have pictures of vehicle in as purchased condition for reference). Only major paint defect is the top of the rear wing.
Car is a driver Cobra. Vehicle runs and drives. All accessories are in functioning order, except for the AC that needs recharged. Car appears to have a mass air sensor problem or pcm issue as engine starts but has lean pops and stumbles a bit. Vehicle has several small chips/scratches on body and the leather seats are worn, and one/two small burns in the back seat. I am including a brand new set of FRPP Bullit pedals the current ones are worn/missing. The local Les Schwab ran through the vehicle when performing a 4 wheel alignment and everything checks out good. Car is waxed and detailed inside and out, ready to drive. Stock stereo is not installed and has been replaced with an aftermarket unit. Steering feels great, as do the brakes, transmission and suspesion. Power locks work but are difficult to operate with keys. Rear strut tower interior trim is missing as well.
Now for the “BUT”. The vehicle was purchased by the previous owner with a VIN# corresponding to a 1990 GT. Before purchasing the vehicle, he took the vehicle to the local Washington State Patrol inspection station where everything checked out 100%. He researched the VIN discrepancy through Ford/SVT and ordered both build sheets which have yet to arrive ( according to Ford, still in processing 05/22/08). Looking at the vehicle, it is very clear that the Teal Metallic is the original color. Also, during the teardown, the Cobra buckplate was found still attached to the front end, the correct 1993 Cobra ECM calibration sticker (X3Z) still on the door. Also, you can see Teal paint to the left of the VIN plate on the dash. See pictures for references to above. All 1993 Cobra specific pieces were present when he purchased the vehicle, minus the Intake, MAF, ECM and taillights which were all stock 5.0 HO pieces. Only item not replaced was the ECM which is a “A9L” unit. Wheels ( left/right), Rear disc brakes, GT40 heads, 1.7 RR rockers Body kit, seats, etc.. are all present and accounted for.

Using several worn VIN stickers on the vehicle, the buck plate, and several areas on the frame, he extrapolated the original VIN# of the car to be : 1FACP42D2PF137437 . This tracks back to a 1993 Teal Cobra, sold from a local Ford Dealership “Skagit Ford”, with all of the appropriate options. The previous owner to him was sold the vehicle as a “GT” and had no clue of it’s Cobra status. Both VIN#’s have clean car fax’s.

In Washington state, you can have a VIN# reassigned by a process similar to a lost title. I chose to NOT do this to make anything more convoluted than it is and let the new owner make the choice on how to handle the VIN# going forward. Interior is a 6. Exterior is an 8. Vehicle is currently registered in WA.
Vehicle is sold as is, with no warranty stated or implied. Shipping will be responsibility of buyer, and I will assist with process if needed.
Greg




Location: Lacey
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Black Foxx

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AU HA!! Got to love the net, searched the vin and found this on SVTPERFORMANCE.Com



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Trader Rating: (25) Well, just got back from WSP and the car checked out fine. As far as they're concerned, the car is a GT that has 93 Cobra parts on it.

Turns out that both the 90 GT VIN and the 93 Cobra VIN were listed as Stolen/recovered at one time. Not quite sure how things ended up as they did, and WSP doesn't care. She had more information to reinforce their stance that the car is 100% in their eyes, but couldn't disclose as it was Law Enforcement purposed only.

Looks like I get to keep my early Christmas present!

Thanks again to all for contributing the information in this thread.

Now to compile a parts list to order on Wednesday......

Seems like the Craigslist add should say 1990 GT Cobra Clone!!! Well looks like my hunt for a trall 93 cobra will keep on..:shrug:
 

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The previous owner is a friend of mine. If you are interested in the car, I can hook you up with him. The car is a legit 93 Cobra and he's the one that did all the work to it. Due to the VIN snafu it will never bring top dollar, but it is real.
 

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It's a good car, been a bit confusing with the VIN but I'll add another vouch for the car. :)

Both the current owner and previous are good guys and on this forum.
 

Black Foxx

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Ok Cool, good to know that good guys have owned the car then :nice:, I just dont see how a Cobra ends up with a GT Vin, unless it was at some time stolen or it's a GT shell, I have been looking for a Teal 93 for a long time
 

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Good info here. I've got the car but not allot of info on it. Just trying to get rid of it.
I dont understand it all either. Its no show car if thats what you're looking for. The listing states that too.
I think if you looked at the car you'd agree its a Cobra too, but I agree its odd. Either way, its for sale.
 

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I am the previous owner to 04Mystichrome of this car. Please email me at saleen09(at)hotmail.com and I'd be more than happy to go over the specifics on the car.

100% real 93 Cobra.
 

SMOKEDYA

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are you just wanting it because it's a 93 cobra? i would pass just cause of the vin if the vin says 90 then it's a clone and (in my opnion) is worth what a 90 gt is.I remember reading this a few years ago also maybe when mystic bought it?I know of a few other people on here that have hacked the crap out of a "specilaity" cars and will probably try to pass them as originals. Back to this here check this out seems my 93 SSP is rare then 93 cobras :D


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1985 Total Model Production Numbers

LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 2,284 (316 of them Special Service)
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 6,989
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 39,460
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 1,951


1985 Color Production Numbers

1B Medium Charcoal
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 213
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 717
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 5,791
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 334

1C Black
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 370
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 1,331
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 10,097
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 539

1E Silver
1B Medium Charcoal
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 213
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 717
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 5,791
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 334

1C Black
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 140
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 426
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 3,686
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 146

2A Medium Canyon Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 188
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 710
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 4,716
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 220

2R Jalapeno Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 148
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 1,324
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 6,105
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 348

3L Dark Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 210
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 207
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 294
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

3V Light Regatta Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 164
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 464
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 2,638
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

4E Dark Sage
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 37
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 35
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 36
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 32

4M Dark Slate
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 31
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): N/A
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 29
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

8L Sand Beige
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 62
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 43
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 81
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

8Y Dark Sable
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 55
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): N/A
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 79
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

9L Oxford White
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 330
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 1,722
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 5,908
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 332
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1986 Total Model Production Numbers

LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 2,825 (415 of them Special Service)
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 11,265
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 43,016
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 3,379

1986 Color Production Numbers

1C Black
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 554
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M):2,455
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 10,895
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 1,053

1D Smoke
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 274
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 1,000
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 6,046
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 390

1E Silver Metallic
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 169
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 611
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 3,683
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 224

2A Medium Canyon Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 216
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 1,119
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 5,125
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 384

2R Jalapeno Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 284
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 2,770
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 8,108
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 681

3J Light Regatta Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 115
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 384
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 2,408
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

4E Dark Sage
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 6
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 45
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 78
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 15

4M Dark Slate Metallic
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 6
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): N/A
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 6
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

7B Shadow Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 254
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 176
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 244
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 71

8L Sand Beige
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 16
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 47
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 34
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

8Y Dark Sable
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 24
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): N/A
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 22
SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

9L Oxford White
LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 502
LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 2,658
LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 6,367
SVO Hatchback (P28T): 561
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1987 Total Model Production Numbers

LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 4,888 (643 of them Special Service)
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 9,642
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 2,073
GT Hatchback (P42E): 37,056
GT Convertible (P45E): 10,451

1987 Color Production Numbers

1C Black
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 62
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 2,317
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 281
GT Hatchback (P42E): 9,292
GT Convertible (P45E): 2,211

1D Smoke Poly
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 421
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 1,100
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 116
GT Hatchback (P42E): 4,526
GT Convertible (P45E): 576

1K Smoke
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 140
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 224
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 32
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,268
GT Convertible (P45E): 206

2D Medium Scarlet
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 642
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 1,545
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 435
GT Hatchback (P42E): 7,462
GT Convertible (P45E): 2,331

2H Medium Cabernet
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 352
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 878
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 151
GT Hatchback (P42E): 3,664
GT Convertible (P45E): 713

3R Medium Shadow Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 277
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 734
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 130
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

6H Jonquil
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 94
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 156
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 68
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

7B Shadow Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 371
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 941
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 116
GT Hatchback (P42E): 4,065
GT Convertible (P45E): 674

7H Bright Regatta Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 108
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 229
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 48
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): 164

8L Sand Beige
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 47
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 79
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 36
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

8Y Dark Sable
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 45
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 68
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 27
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

9L Oxford White
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 786
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 1,371
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 633
GT Hatchback (P42E): 6,799
GT Convertible (P45E): 3,576
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1988 Model Production Numbers

LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 5,568 (379 of them Special Service)
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 16,331
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 5,188
GT Hatchback (P42E): 50,282
GT Convertible (P45E): 18,158

1988 Color Production Numbers

66 Topical Yellow
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 46
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 127
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 120
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

1C Black
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 1,552
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 3,832
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 768
GT Hatchback (P42E): 12,017
GT Convertible (P45E): 3,791

1D Smoke Poly
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 452
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 1,629
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 277
GT Hatchback (P42E): 5,075
GT Convertible (P45E): 902

1K Smoke
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 224
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 246
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 97
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,549
GT Convertible (P45E): 438

2D Medium Scarlet
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 648
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 2,391
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 1,008
GT Hatchback (P42E): 8,642
GT Convertible (P45E): 4,043

2H Medium Cabernet
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 395
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 1,780
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 442
GT Hatchback (P42E): 5,611
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,641

3R Medium Shadow Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 253
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 881
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 233
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

6L Dark Sable
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 28
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 41
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 45
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

7H Bright Regatta Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 313
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 1,322
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 353
GT Hatchback (P42E): 3,806
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,096

7N Dark Shadow Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 426
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 1,600
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 315
GT Hatchback (P42E): 5,281
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,676

8L Sand Beige
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 23
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 95
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 74
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

9L Oxford White
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 829
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 2,387
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 1,476
GT Hatchback (P42E): 8,301
GT Convertible (P45E): 4,571
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1989 Model Production Numbers

LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 10,528 (776 of them Special Service)
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 24,734
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 10,575
GT Hatchback (P42E): 40,231
GT Convertible (P45E): 19,417

1989 Color Production Numbers

21 Bright Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 409
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 1,249
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 368
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,516
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,345

66 Tropical Yellow
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 67
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 126
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 163
GT Hatchback (P42E): 9,656
GT Convertible (P45E): 3,958

1C Black
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 2,174
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 5,356
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 1,563
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,598
GT Convertible (P45E): 809

1D Dark Grey Metallic
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 842
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 2,025
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E):485
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,220
GT Convertible (P45E): 470

1K Light Grey
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 312
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 525
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E):434
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

2D Medium Scarlet
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 718
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 2,032
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E):1,207
GT Hatchback (P42E): 3,738
GT Convertible (P45E): 2,070

2H Cabernet Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 899
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 2,734
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 1,499
GT Hatchback (P42E): 4,655
GT Convertible (P45E): 2,307

3R Medium Shadow Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 575
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 1,107
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 408
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

6V Almond
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 137
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 236
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 127
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

7H Bright Regatta Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 687
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 1,799
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 626
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,824
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,090

7N Deep Shadow Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 938
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 2,168
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 554
GT Hatchback (P42E): 3,162
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,237

9L Oxford White
LX 5.0 Sedan (P40E): 1,996
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41E): 5,337
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 3,141
GT Hatchback (P42E): 9,762
GT Convertible (P45E): 6,131
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1990 Model Production Numbers

LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 7,905 (921 of them Special Service)
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 17,409
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 9,692
GT Hatchback (P42E): 33,639
GT Convertible (P45E): 12,252

1990 Color Production Numbers

EH Medium Cabernet
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 309
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 790
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 286
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,556
GT Convertible (P45E): 533

EL Wild Strawberry
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 734
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 2,315
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 516
GT Hatchback (P42E): 3,177
GT Convertible (P45E): 856

EM Medium Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 6
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 14
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 5
GT Hatchback (P42E): 54
GT Convertible (P45E): 15

EP Vermillion
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 1,158
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 3,154
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 1,330
GT Hatchback (P42E): 6,358
GT Convertible (P45E): 2,808

KA Crystal Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 12
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): N/A
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): N/A
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

MA Light Crystal Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 434
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 478
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 210
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

MK Twilight Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 610
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,576
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 311
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,924
GT Convertible (P45E): 529

MM Ultra Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 7
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): N/A
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): N/A
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): 768

PA Deep Emerald Jewel Green
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 6
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 31
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 4,106
GT Hatchback (P42E): 67
GT Convertible (P45E): 9

YO Oxford White
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 1,256
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 3,039
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 1,708
GT Hatchback (P42E): 7,110
GT Convertible (P45E): 3,587

YC Black
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 1,565
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 3,359
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 669
GT Hatchback (P42E): 6,776
GT Convertible (P45E): 2,271

YF Light Dark Titanium
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 463
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,460
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 303
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,789
GT Convertible (P45E): 491

YG Medium Titanium
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 7
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 35
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 4
GT Hatchback (P42E): 35
GT Convertible (P45E): 9

YU Dark Titanium
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 421
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,102
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 238
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,443
GT Convertible (P45E): 332

YX Titanium Frost
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 8
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 44
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 6
GT Hatchback (P42E): 53
GT Convertible (P45E): 16
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1991 Model Production Numbers

LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 7,229 (385 of them Special Service)
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 2,717
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 7,850
GT Hatchback (P42E): 24,667
GT Convertible (P45E): 8,852

1991 Color Production Numbers

EL Wild Strawberry
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 662
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,141
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 556
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,135
GT Convertible (P45E): 544

EM Medium Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 454
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 650
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 427
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,401
GT Convertible (P45E): 360

EP Bright Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 1,004
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 2,105
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 1,983
GT Hatchback (P42E): 4,524
GT Convertible (P45E): 2,066

K3 Bimini Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 106
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 379
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 67
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

KA Light Crystal Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 100
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 349
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 65
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

MK Twilight Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 420
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 867
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 219
GT Hatchback (P42E): 913
GT Convertible (P45E): 212

PA Deep Emerald Jewel Green
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 585
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,266
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 423
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,311
GT Convertible (P45E): 592

PM Bright Calypso
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 159
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 522
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 122
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,799
GT Convertible (P45E): 555

UA Ebony
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 681
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,270
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 308
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,432
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,128

YO Oxford White
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 1,496
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 2,018
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 2,616
GT Hatchback (P42E): 5,137
GT Convertible (P45E): 2,327

YC Black
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 240
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 508
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 115
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,027
GT Convertible (P45E): 300

YG Medium Titanium
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 491
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 693
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 457
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,348
GT Convertible (P45E): 344

YX Titanium Frost
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 557
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 929
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 492
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,647
GT Convertible (P45E): 424
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1992 Model Production Numbers

LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 5,346 (542 of them Special Service)
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 8,671
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 6,606
GT Hatchback (P42E): 4,065
GT Convertible (P45E): 5,823

1992 Color Production Numbers

EL Wild Strawberry
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 310
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 638
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 327
GT Hatchback (P42E): 906
GT Convertible (P45E): 266

EM Medium Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): N/A
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): N/A
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): N/A
GT Hatchback (P42E): 167
GT Convertible (P45E): 54

EP Vermillion
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 637
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,293
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 1,086
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,788
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,481

EY Performance Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): N/A
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): N/A
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 2,193
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

K3 Bimini Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 291
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 661
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 268
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

MK Twilight Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 231
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 337
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 90
GT Hatchback (P42E): 565
GT Convertible (P45E): 161

MM Ultra Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 2
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): N/A
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): N/A
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,081
GT Convertible (P45E): 228

PA Deep Emerald Jewel Green
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 843
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,644
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 518
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,222
GT Convertible (P45E): 729

PM Bright Calypso Green
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 449
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,121
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 646
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A

UA Black
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 961
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,392
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 261
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,985
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,258

YO Oxford White
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 651
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 910
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 978
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,477
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,366

YG Medium Titanium
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 176
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 259
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 98
GT Hatchback (P42E): 327
GT Convertible (P45E): 100

YX Titanium Frost
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 253
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 416
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 141
GT Hatchback (P42E): 547
GT Convertible (P45E): 180
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1993 Model Production Numbers

LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 7,135 (628 of them Special Service)
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 9,376
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 6,382
GT Hatchback (P42E): 14,459
GT Convertible (P45E): 6,535
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): 5,099

1993 Color Production Numbers

BZ Chrome Yellow
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): N/A
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): N/A
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 1,503
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): N/A

EG Electric Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 702
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,252
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 459
GT Hatchback (P42E): 1,331
GT Convertible (P45E): 420
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): N/A

EP Vermillion
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 910
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,439
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 601
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,239
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,227
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): N/A

ES Vibrant Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): N/A
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): N/A
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): N/A
GT Hatchback (P42E): 549
GT Convertible (P45E): 221
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): 1,881

EY Performance Red
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): N/A
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): N/A
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): N/A
GT Hatchback (P42E): 576
GT Convertible (P45E): 197
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): 9

KF Bright Lapis
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): N/A
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): N/A
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): N/A
GT Hatchback (P42E): 840
GT Convertible (P45E): 245
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): N/A

LA Royal Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 371
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 513
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 132
GT Hatchback (P42E): 500
GT Convertible (P45E): 233
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): N/A

PD Reef Blue
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 1,177
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,802
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 561
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,065
GT Convertible (P45E): 671
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): N/A

PM Bright Calypso Green
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 519
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 885
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 361
GT Hatchback (P42E): NA
GT Convertible (P45E): NA
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): NA

UA Black
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 1,568
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,915
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 424
GT Hatchback (P42E): 3,405
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,656
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): 1,854

RD Teal
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): N/A
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): N/A
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): N/A
GT Hatchback (P42E): N/A
GT Convertible (P45E): N/A
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): 1,355

WB Vibrant White
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 906
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 1,226
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 2,157
GT Hatchback (P42E): 2,529
GT Convertible (P45E): 1,438
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): N/A

YN Silver
LX 5.0 Sedan (P41E): 354
LX 5.0 Hatchback (P41F): 344
LX 5.0 Convertible (P44E): 184
GT Hatchback (P42E): 425
GT Convertible (P45E): 177
Cobra Hatchback (P42D): N/A
 

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Just so you all know. I'm not trying to "pass" this car as anything than what it is and have been informed about. I may not have all the info or may have incorrect info but I'm not out here trying to get over on anyone. Nothing sinister going on here. If you have a question please ask but dont throw crap out there you "think" is going on.
 

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Just so you all know. I'm not trying to "pass" this car as anything than what it is and have been informed about. I may not have all the info or may have incorrect info but I'm not out here trying to get over on anyone. Nothing sinister going on here. If you have a question please ask but dont throw crap out there you "think" is going on.

WHOLEHEARTEDLY second this!

Being that I've already sold the car, I have no reason to NOT be 100% on the car and my knowledge of it.

I have LOTS of pics proving this car is most defintiley a 93 Cobra. Wouldn't have sunk 100+ hours and a chuck of change into it otherwise. Would buy it back in an instant if I wasn't waist deep in a 73 Bronco project.

I will post a link to the pics later on this evening.
 

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What the hell do all those production numbers have to do with this discussion?
 

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What the hell do all those production numbers have to do with this discussion?

Agreed. Sucks to have to scroll ALL the way past as well. Maybe post a link to those numbers for the sake of the OP?

Here is the link to the pics as promised.

Teal Cobra pictures by saleen09 - Photobucket

Shows :
1. Original 93 Cobra buck tag on core support.
2. Original color of car is "93 Cobra only" Teal metallic
3. Vin Stickers on hood and door to collaborate the original Cobra VIN#
4. ECU calibration sticker for "93 Cobra only" X3Z
5. Ford Racing Gold roller rockers WITH correct OEM part #
6. Correct seats and steering wheel

That along with ALL of the correct 93 Cobra hardware (rear disc brake rear end, master cylinder, OEM/Ford body parts, etc) make it a clear cut case for me.

Hope that helps clear things up.

TTT!
 

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Just so you all know. I'm not trying to "pass" this car as anything than what it is and have been informed about. I may not have all the info or may have incorrect info but I'm not out here trying to get over on anyone. Nothing sinister going on here. If you have a question please ask but dont throw crap out there you "think" is going on.

:jaw:That was in no way ment to you! As far as trying to f someone out of a car or money or anyting else. You sound like a good stand up guy and Saleen09 is hereto back you up. But i still strongly dissagree with whoever cloned this car! I just posted the production info to show cobras arent as rare as everone makes them to be. Maybe it's just me but some people that buy these cars and they just sit? peace




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:jaw:That was in no way ment to you! As far as trying to f someone out of a car or money or anyting else. You sound like a good stand up guy and Saleen09 is hereto back you up. But i still strongly dissagree with whoever cloned this car! I just posted the production info to show cobras arent as rare as everone makes them to be. Maybe it's just me but some people that buy these cars and they just sit? peace

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SMOYEDYA, THE CAR IS NOT CLONED. Please read my post above.
 

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Wow the production numbers were a little much, Thanks for all the info guys looks like a nice car, i'm not looking for a perfect show car, just a nice daily driver, I never said that the owner was trying to pass off a clone, as a matter of fact he is very honest and strait forward, I was just trying to determan how a car that is obviously a true Cobra ends up with GT numbers, I find it hard to believ eanyoe that whold be a clone whould go to the trouble of reinstalling a buck tag. I as more concerned that the car did not have a salvage on eith the GT Or Cobra vins, for safety reasons, dont want a car thats been cut in half and put back together, Ive worked around a body shop and have seen some crazy stuff. Again thanks for all the info guys, good to see you can still count on old stang net.
 

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"dont want a car thats been cut in half and put back together" i know of a few of those around here.peace



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SMOYEDYA, THE CAR IS NOT CLONED. Please read my post above.

To me it sounds like it is,why would a vin come back as a 1990 GT? but then also a 93 cobra? what is it 1/2 90GT 1/2 93 cobra? my 93 dosent come back as any other year!it says it's a 93 coupe!Yes maybe you should clearify the spicifics of the car.I'm in no way saying you or 04MystiCobra arent honest guy's. What i'm saying is like black fox stated it is fishy to run a vin and come back as 2 diffrent cars tho! TO ME THATS A CLONE! UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE IT'S A 100% 93 COBRA!It's just like buying a totaled car,it isnt worth crap no matter how much money you put into it it's still a salvaged title! BUT I'M NOT SAYING THIS COBRA ISNT WORTH CRAP.And yes i think if someone wanted to pass it off bad enough (i know someone that did do this)as a cobra or a Specialty car they would replace any and all tags just so the average joe would see them and think ok cool it's real! and not even bother with the vin research.peace



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To me it sounds like it is,why would a vin come back as a 1990 GT? but then also a 93 cobra? what is it 1/2 90GT 1/2 93 cobra? my 93 dosent come back as any other year!it says it's a 93 coupe!Yes maybe you should clearify the spicifics of the car.I'm in no way saying you or 04MystiCobra arent honest guy's. What i'm saying is like black fox stated it is fishy to run a vin and come back as 2 diffrent cars tho! TO ME THATS A CLONE! UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE IT'S A 100% 93 COBRA!It's just like buying a totaled car,it isnt worth crap no matter how much money you put into it it's still a salvaged title! BUT I'M NOT SAYING THIS COBRA ISNT WORTH CRAP.And yes i think if someone wanted to pass it off bad enough (i know someone that did do this)as a cobra or a Specialty car they would replace any and all tags just so the average joe would see them and think ok cool it's real! and not even bother with the vin research.peace



john:p

Im thinking I have to agree, I would buy it as a 1990 gt daily driver.
 

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Theres obviously something there. Yes it is strange tha a 90 GT VIN made it on the car. Was anything hidden in the listing? No. Take it or leave it. You guys act like you discovered something on your own. You only know this because it was stated in the listing. Why are you so surprised? It is what it is. Nobodies asking full on 93 Cobra price here. Far from it. Is it the most desirable Stang out there? No. Never said it was. Is there interest, obviously. In this vehicles case, you can actually drive it, mod and so on without worries about deminished value. It already has over 100k, needs some work but its all there. Would you pay $6 for a GT? Maybe maybe not. Could you build a Cobra clone for $6k? No. I know you wont find a real Cobra in this shape for $6k. Take it at face value here and please stop trying to uncover something thats been put out.