93 2.3L mustang won't start

[stang493]

hello all,
i'm new to the fourm and new to the mustang world. i recently purchased a 1993 mustang 2.3L auto. well after driving it for a while the day i bought it i went to the atm to take out some money. while i was sitting at the atm the suddenly died. no sputtering. just quit. then it wouldn't start. so i loaded it up on the trailer and had limited daylight when i got home but it had no spark coming from the ignition coils. (it is the 8 plug model) any ideas what the problem may be. also i'm going to be looking for a 5 speed set up so if anyone has one let me know.

 

[RustBucket]

Welcome!

Check the timing belt first. You can peek behind the cover at the top and see if the cam gear turns when you crank it. If it doesn't turn while you're trying to start the car, you need a timing belt.

 

[stang493]

the previous owner said that it was just replaced. (2 weeks ago)

 

[RustBucket]

That wouldn't stop me from at least checking it. I trust my eyes more than I trust a previous owner. It only takes a minute or less to check. Rule that out and move to the next step.

Did the tach act funny at all prior to the car dying? Like reading half of what it should or bouncing around? Maybe a check engine light to go along with it?

 

[stang493]

i'm not for sure but the tach had been fine the whole day. i didn't have my eyes on it when the car died. no check engine light either. i did look at the timing belt and it looks fine.

 

[stang493]

could this be an ignition control modual or crankshaft position sensor?

 

[RustBucket]

That's where I was going with the tach question. You can have the module tested at a parts store. If that checks good, the next step would be the crank trigger.

 

[stykthyn]

my money says that you have a faulty ICM

 

[BELL]

crank sensor. will it crank and not fire?
or no crank at all?

 

[stang493]

it cranks but has no fire

 

[Swarzkopf]

x2 on checking the timing belt! Just check it..it takes 10 seconds.

After that I'd suspect the ICM...

I replaced the crack position sensor on my 93 2.3L...it was a ROYAL pain in the ass, and it ended up being the ICM anyway.

 

[Jquintel]

x3 checking that belt, changed my icm and my coils before deciding to check out the belt, then low and behold lol

 

[Stinger]

Once you verify the timing belt is fine, it's the Ignition module almost certainly.

It can't be the coils as they wouldn't both die at the same time.

Crank sensor is rare but possible.

 

[stang493]

ok, i checked the belt, everything thing is great. replaced the ICM today for a cost of $155 (which is after i get my dicount at the parts store.) still no fire. whats the deal. it has to be the crank sensor, correct? running out of options, and slowly going crazy. thanks
for everyones help.

 

[kilgorq]

Can you get the ECM code from the computer read. It might point you in the right direction.

Try here for the list of codes http://proficientmustang.com/ecm_codes.htm

I am not sure what management sytem your stang uses but if you search some you should be able to find that out along with tips on how to read them. I think it is EEC IV but dont quote me on that...

Try this for the DIY http://www.corral.net/tech/maintenance/eecivtest.html

or purchase a scanner?

You may be able to get it read for free if you take the car to a parts store like autozone or schucks...

 

[93PONY]

mine did the same thing and it was the crank sensor, it cost me about $135 for the part and abou$20 for all the asperin, but it worked fine after i got it on there

 

[Swarzkopf]

It took me 4 aftermarket ICMs to get one that worked...

Don't count the ICM out yet...

 

[SMOKEDYA]

What is a ICM and where is it located at? peace





john

 

[stang493]

it ended up being the crank sensor. the middle part of the sensor was broke off. the ICM is located on the front side of your intake.

 

[dankdronuggz]

That wouldn't stop me from at least checking it. I trust my eyes more than I trust a previous owner. It only takes a minute or less to check. Rule that out and move to the next step.

Did the tach act funny at all prior to the car dying? Like reading half of what it should or bouncing around? Maybe a check engine light to go along with it?

what would cause this problem you mentioned above with engine light and tach