best torque convertor stall for stock engine?

jaymac

jaymac

New Member
Feb 18, 2004
995
0
0
Northern Mass
#1
I searched the forums, but didn't get any good results... so I'll ask here-
I have a stock engine, just exhaust and CAI. I'm putting in 3.73's, and am wondering what the idealstall for my application would be. This is solely a street car, a daily driver, and almost NEVER sees 5000 rpm. My normal driving range is idle to 3000 rpm, with a few mashed pedals from time to time, so what would you guys recommend, and what companies?
Also, I bought a B&M transpak, but the guy at the tranny shop said it would kill my tranny by the end of the summer, has anyone had experience with this? I think he's saying that b/c they deal w/ transgo which was about $40 more, but is he right? The tranny has 40,000 miles on it now.
Thanks for the advice guys...
J
 

  • Sponsors (?)


#4
I don't think that a transmision shift kit you bought will burn your trany up.The AOD 's have many problems if you drive it hard.I burnt up a brand new aod in about three months(maybe to much power).No downshifts either.For a trany shop to say that seems like they see you as a future customer of a rebuild. Hence don't want to make your trany last longer and shift crisp.You should install a trany cooler with that shift kit.Post how it performs when you get it in.Also if you get the gears and the shift kit done together you will swear you got a new engne it will run hard of the line and shift quicker(not to familiar with B&M's I like trango too).Your goin in the total right direction with the parts you got.
 
#5
I've got a B&M and its been in the car for 10+ years. It shouldn't burn up the trans. But, if I hd to do it all over again I'd have gone with the transgo or a Baumannengineering kit. Much better from all I've heard over the years.

Get yourself the biggest tranny cooler you can slide into that thing. Heat kills these things and it's pretty cheap insurance.

I think with a street car, you'll probably like the stall to be in the 2400-2600 range. I've got the 9.5" Edge racing 3000 in mine and it works flawlessly. Andre will answer every question you could possibly come up with.
 
#8
Yeah, I agree 2,800-3,000 would be good since you have the gears to make it streetable. It should drive very well. I had a B&M 3,000 stall with 4:10s and street manners were excleent.
 
#9
With a stock motor YOU don't need a stall covnerter...the stock one is good all the way up to 2000RPM...which is plenty...BUT if you were to get one you want to get one that puts the cam right in the powerband...BTW: The stalls speed you see advertised are actually tested on a BIG block so on a SMALL block they will be of around 500RPM-700RPM..Transgo shift kit is SO much better then B&M...I had it in my AOD before the 5 speed coversion and I really liked it...BTW: a shift kit will extend the life of an AOD...
 
#10
Hey, thanks for all the responses, guys! I appreciate all the input... So this is what I'm getting:
I already recieved the B&M kit, but haven't put it in yet, as I'm waiting to see what the popular opinion is between that and the transgo. It looks like transgo is winning. I was actually on my way to tlak to the guys at the shop today to see about putting a tranny cooler in, so just get the biggest one I can??
Next, I see some different opinions about a t.c. on a stock engine, whether I even need it or not, being a daily driver and all. The shop recommended I do just the gears first, then see how I like them, and THEN think about a T.C.
I'll most likely have them do a transgo kit first, if that seems to have the best quality and reputation.
Someone mentioned Baumann engineering?
And LASTLY, should I put a new posi in the same time as my gears (only the right rear will leave rubber). Is this a performance thing, luxury or necessity? Keeping in mind it's a daily driver and straight line 60 sec. times are not the #1 priority. (however it would be sweet to leave dual strips of 245 mm worth of rubber smoking in my wake :lol: )
Thanks again, guys,
Jeremy
 
#11
The bigger the trans cooler the better.

A trac-loc (posi) rebuild will be way cheaper to get done while you are getting the gears installed. You don't have to buy the fluid and gaskets twice.

Highbredcloud says don't get the converter for a stock engine. Well, I had 3.55's in my car with just a few bolt ons and the car went low 15's at the track. POpped the stall converter in and went right to the low 14's at the track. Dollar for dollar, it made the biggest improvement to my track times. Gears and a converter are the way to go to get the most out of a stock motor.
 
#12
davs5.0 said:
The bigger the trans cooler the better.

A trac-loc (posi) rebuild will be way cheaper to get done while you are getting the gears installed. You don't have to buy the fluid and gaskets twice.

Highbredcloud says don't get the converter for a stock engine. Well, I had 3.55's in my car with just a few bolt ons and the car went low 15's at the track. POpped the stall converter in and went right to the low 14's at the track. Dollar for dollar, it made the biggest improvement to my track times. Gears and a converter are the way to go to get the most out of a stock motor.
Click to expand...

You have a 3000 stall on a stock cam? so that means it probably stalls to 2400 RPM before the tires let loose...and your stock cam starts making power at around 1800RPM to 5200 RPM...A stock converter is good all the way up to 2000RPM +....Was it worth the $500.00 for it? that's your opinion...With $500.00 to spend I would have thrown a set of 4.10 instead of 3.55 and would go the the same times without stressing the tranny too much...
 
#13
yeah, I spoke to the guys @ the shop yesterday, and told them to pull the A/C condensor to get the biggest cooler in there that they can, so that's next weekend...
So now, for my needs, (no strip action, just street) would it be worth it to go with an Eaton posi ($339), an Auburn ($289), a Ford Racing ($214) or just a rebuild kit ($90 plus labor)??? Any opionos, pros or cons?
Thanks again,
J
 
#16
Highbred; the Edge 3000 stall goes right to 3000 rpm before the car tries to move thru the lights. When Andre tells you it will stall to a certain rpm, it does.

If you can get a stock stall to run all the way to 2K rpm before the brakes won't hold it, you're doing better than most guys.

Was it worth it? Absolutely. $500 to pick up over a second at the track, not many better bangs for the buck. Not many guys on this forum running 13.80's with stock cam, heads, intake, and a few bolt ons. I must be doing something right.

Different strokes for different folks buddy. We all learn from everyone. You do it your way, I'll do it mine.
 
#18
davs5.0 said:
Highbred; the Edge 3000 stall goes right to 3000 rpm before the car tries to move thru the lights. When Andre tells you it will stall to a certain rpm, it does.
Click to expand...

This does not sound right unless your foot is on the brake when describing where it stalls. I had a B&M 3,000 Hole Shot coverter in my 67 Camaro with 4:10s and if you didn't keep your foot on the brake, the car would start rolling. It drove very much like a stock trans other than if you "flashed" the coverter by jamming the pedal to the floor, then it would stall to about 3,000 before hooking up real hard.
 
#19
I'm definately talking about using the brakes to hold the car. It drives almost like the stock stall unless you use the brakes. I was just trying to tell him that some converters don't really stall to what they are advertised to. The Edge one does, at least mine does.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

O
Torque convertor not unlocking (1995 AODE)
Replies
1
Views
243
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
90sickfox
90sickfox
AnthonyA1234
Drivetrain Vibration in clutch pedal and shudder noise when engine is lugging
Replies
0
Views
491
2015 - 2023 Specific Tech
AnthonyA1234
AnthonyA1234
A
Help with engine issues/emissions
Replies
13
Views
748
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Mcmahst
M
H
Engine new engine troubles
Replies
16
Views
2K
Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech
Monkeybutt2000
M
B
94 cobra possible idle issue?
Replies
11
Views
703
1994 - 1995 Specific Tech
Noobz347
Noobz347
Top Bottom
Back
New
Hot
Menu