Cam Help...

Discussion in '2005 - 2014 S-197 Mustang -General/Talk-' started by mustangmike6996, May 12, 2012.

  1. what is the best cam to go with for a 2010 GT.

    I want to get the large lopey idle. i want more power. i dont want all my power at high rpm. i would like to keep a mid rpm range powerband

    i just installed some hot rod cams in my buddy's 2010 gt.. i was impressed, plus it was a direct drop in plus a tune..

    are there any better cams out there for NA power?
  2. Call Comp Cams and tell them all the things you just stated in your post.
  3. is comp the way to go? I like the Hot Rods because it was the easiest cam install i have ever done. i just heard of BBR (blow by racing) and their stage 2 cams sound amazing. crane cams website seems to be useless. The Detroit Rockers sound awesome (and are similar to the Hot Rods apparently) i just need a nudge toward the best brand. i was hoping to get some first hand responses from ppl on the board.
  4. I've dealt with Comp, in the past and if you tell them all the info of your car, mods, gears, future mods etc they will help you choose the right cam taking consideration also the type of driving too.
  5. i went with Mutha Thumprs and phaser limiters..... hopefully American Muscle will have them here before the weekend.

    im thinking about painting my valve covers while they are off... maybe Ford blue. there was a good thread a while back about painting them
  6. Does painting the valve covers increase engine heat? I was mentioning to a friend of mine the other day about me possibly painting mine (I saw the other post on SN and some of them look awesome painted) and he said there's a reason Ford left the covers unpainted. He said if painted, they will retain more heat than non-painted. :shrug: I can't imagine the difference being significant though. And they look 100 times better painted. Sorry mustangmike, didn't intend to highjack your cam post. :ot:
  7. Well, since Ford Racing offers them powder coated, id say paint can't be that bad.
  8. What's the average cost in getting cams installed? I'm a "do-it-yourself" guy, but I think cams maybe a bit over my skill level especially with the Ti-VCT system.
  9. i just did a set of Hot Rods last week. they are super easy. took me less than 3 hours...
  10. i always hear great things about comp also but i know for a stock system the hot rods are the best way to go with out having to change heads but like they said above if you plan on modding then i would go with comp and let them know what you are planning.
  11. Copied from another forum, but very useful...

    Here's my unofficial guide to cams for people who are mechanically challenged like myself. I recently spent weeks researching cams before deciding on the hot rods and I'll pass on to you what I learned in a nutshell.

    NSR Cams

    Most popular - FRPP Hot Rod Cams, Detroit Rockers by Comp (sold by Brenspeed)

    Positives - Good all-around cam. Good driveability. Minimal loss of low end. Nice lope. Some power (around 25rwhp with LT's and cmdp's), most affordable since the only thing that needs to be replaced is the cams and 2 cam bolts.

    Negatives - You can get a little more power (12-15 rwhp) from an SPR cam. IMO the Mutha Thumpr's do sound a little bit better although the hot rods sound pretty damn good.

    Something to consider: If you get your tunes from bama I would go hot rods over detroit rocker. I contacted several users on here who run a bama tune with hot rods and they all said it was spot on and mine is as well. I could not find a single instance of someone using a bama tune on detroit rockers. This is because they are sold by Brenspeed and most use a brenspeed tune with them.

    Less popular - Comp 127200 and BBR Stage 1

    Mutha Thumpers (Comp 127020)

    Technically an NSR cam although you will need to install lockouts to lock out the VCT.

    Positives - Best sounding cam in my opinion. They pull hard as hell up top and give a little more power than the NSR cams.

    Negatives - I drove a car with Mutha Thumpr's and 4.10's and it loses so much low end they felt like my buddies 3.31 gears. The driveability is pretty bad on them. Really annoying just trying to get out of the parking lot without bucking or stalling and I consider myself pretty good at driving stick. And it's not just parking lot speeds, it bucks some even at higher speeds. Also, you'll have to spend a little more money on lockouts.

    Something to consider - If you really don't believe me and think you won't mind the loss of driveability, read this thread. Mutha Thumprs installed/Not so happy - Ford Mustang Forums

    SPR Cams

    Most popular - Comp 127500, BBR stage II

    Positives - With proper tune can maintain driveability and low end similar to NSR cams. Give more power (12-15 rwhp) than NSR cams.

    Negatives - Lope the least and you will have to spend more on parts because you will need both VCT lockouts and new valve springs. This makes the install more expensive or difficult as well (depending if your doing it yourself or not).

    There are other cams out there but these are the most popular ones.

    Just FYI, after I added full exhaust and hot rod cams I had my car re-dynoed and I picked up 43 rwhp and 21 ft-lb tq. There's no way that was all from just long tubes. I figure around 15 was from the LT's and around 25-28 from the cams. These numbers aren't perfect because the first dyno was dynojet STD and the second one was dynojet SAE corrected at 0.97. I also swapped from 3.55's to 4.10's in between dyno's. It still gives you an idea though.

    Also, if I gave out any misinformation here, someone please correct me.
  12. just installed the mutha thumprs today... i do feel that i have lost some low end torque (i went from a 93 race tune on stock cams to 89 performance tune because the race tune would not load)... i love the car at idle, it runs rough but feels good.. as far as bucking, its not as bad as i thought. my buddies 2010 has FRPP Hot Rods and his bucks the same or worse with 4.10s I have 3.73s.
  13. I have the mutha thumpr cams installed. The bottom end is crap but the top end is great. Wish I could gain some of my bottom back tho.