Think we can make it til January without killing each other? Everyone is going to need to save their strength because after January we'll actually have some reliable information to **** about. I am assuming, however, that it will be late next year before we have reliable info on weight and engine mod potential, or do you think that kind of info will be released or leaked sooner rather than later? In the meantime, maybe the Mustang owners can try to tolerate the non-Mustang owners, and the 05 defenders can try to tolerate the 05 detractors. After all, it's the holiday season!