Well, Lots of questions to review. Thanks for all the suggestions.
The car has been running fine. Don’t drive it often. It stays in my garage most of the time so not out in weather. No water issues.
The problem started when out one day and did not want to start. No noise at all just all gauges come on then nothing. No clicks or noise like dead battery. I thought it was clutch switch so depressed clutch few times and kept trying after 2-3 tries it started. No problems for several days. Then one evening when leaving a friends house same problem. Then started. Next day it would not start at all. Again suspected clutch switch. Replaced it and after two tries it started. Two days later again no start and now nothing. Will not make a sound. Charged battery and still nothing. All battery connections are clean and ground seems good. Checked relays and all good. Did find one bad relay for ac inside blower motor. It had not been working for several months so solved that issue.
Checked all fuses with test light and all seem good. Jumped the starter by bypassing at relay and starter works.
Tried doing reset with key in ignition for 15 -20 min in on position then off 5 min still nothing. Anti theft light still blinks constant fast when in on position.
Will keep checking to see if i caused a lose wire or something when replacing clutch switch.
Not sure what else to try.
Hi,
Do you have a Scantool? Pull the codes from the Cars computer & see the code(s) stored, it may help.
Have a Spare key with the plastic head like the one you’re using? Try that, make sure your key ring has nothing but the Cars key on it. Certain things can interfere.
Make sure you turn your steering wheel to where it’s locked, then try starting it.
Does your fuel
Pump run for a few seconds & shut off (prime) when you turn the key on when the car doesn’t start?
It sounds like it may be a connection from the ignition switch to a door switch (either- check both) or other wiring going to/from the Clutch, to the fuses in the passenger kick panel, out to the starter solenoid. Being intermittent, it’s more likely you have a wire or safety malfunctioning versus a key identity issue that’s causing PATS to immobilize your car- thinking the cars being stolen.
This happens a LOT with PATS, you’re not alone by any means.
As seen in the thread above, you’ll note that there’s a round Transceiver ring that surrounds your ignition switch underneath the plastic(s) of your steering column. Not certain of how familiar you are with PATS, but an embedded device in the black plastic head of the key, PATS system is programmed to identify it. There’s a control box that the ring is wired to which runs PATS, and disables/enables things when it reads the key.If you have anything else on your keychain, e.g., a Speedpass, another Car’s Key with a Plastic head- anything but a bare key, remove it..
If PATS fails completely, it’s usually done for, new key(S) (usually requires more than one key to be programmed) are purchased & a locksmith needs to program the system to accept it. A traveling locksmith can usually both provide keys, FOB, and reprogram. Your Insurance will cover a portion of this, as will AAA, if it comes down to that.
But either way, you want to rule out a broken wire, switch, etc. It’s not always easy, but what is?
Check all your grounds. Remove, clean, add electric grease, fasten down- tight.
Its more often a broken wire/switch when function is intermittent. Some cut the top of the key off, tape it to the column, and then the car starts with a plain key. Others buy a programmer and disable PATS entirely.
I think both are foolish. System is excellent at preventing theft.
The light flashing rapidly isn’t jibberish, it’s actually spelling out a code that’s used to identify the problem.
So, try the few things I’d mentioned, borrow a Scantool, check every wire down to rule them out, I’ll see if i can post some diagrams.
I’d suggest getting a Shop manual for your Car, the diagrams alone are priceless. A Haynes or Chiltons, local stores carry them.
Until we text again, best of luck to you!
-John