Progress Thread Dirty Water Racing 89 Notch Project

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Wow, this thing is really coming along. Have been following since the beginning of this build.
 
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CarMichael Angelo

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I’ve re-read to be sure that I haven’t missed it somewhere, but in case i have, sorry...You appear to be putting a ton of potential power into a stock block..( i see no mention of an upgraded aftermarket block) You do realize these engines fail at the 500 +/- hp mark right?...like split right in half fail...

And even if you do....putting together something that could take out the turbo’s right along with it seems like a new definition for “ going for broke”.
 
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I have successfully pulled 600+ from them "safely" but it requires serious work and a 28oz or neutral balanced assembly. stock internals wont handle the job for any length of time, and one hiccup gives you 2- 4 cylinder engines
 

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I’ve re-read to be sure that I haven’t missed it somewhere, but in case i have, sorry...You appear to be putting a ton of potential power into a stock block..( i see no mention of an upgraded aftermarket block) You do realize these engines fail at the 500 +/- hp mark right?...like “split right in half“ fail...
Yea, I've heard it a million times. I've known it a million times lol.

The motor was a "plus" when buying this car. Basically had plans for a dart block sbf for this car anyways. Bought it for the chassis not the motor. Having fun with it and not really giving much care into it's failure if and when it does happen. I have a tuner I'm confident in getting it to where it needs to be.

I have an end goal. Anything strapped to this engine will be transferable to an upgraded engine setup in the future.

Edit: I'll also add that the machinest I use for builds I currently do would and will steer me straight with it.
 

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Yea, I've heard it a million times. I've known it a million times lol.

The motor was a "plus" when buying this car. Basically had plans for a dart block sbf for this car anyways. Bought it for the chassis not the motor. Having fun with it and not really giving much care into it's failure if and when it does happen. I have a tuner I'm confident in getting it to where it needs to be.

I have an end goal. Anything strapped to this engine will be transferable to an upgraded engine setup in the future.
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I have successfully pulled 600+ from them "safely" but it requires serious work and a 28oz or neutral balanced assembly. stock internals wont handle the job for any length of time, and one hiccup gives you 2- 4 cylinder engines
Yeah I know Steve, But I’d bet for every one of the success stories there is a dozen fails..How many pictures on this forum alone shows the aftermath of too much sht rammed into a 5.0, that is now (2 ) 2.5 Oh Noooo’s:O_o:
 
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CarMichael Angelo

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They are 350$ turbos. It's be such a shame if they get taken out with the motor. Lol
that makes the two of them 700.00.

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that makes the two of them 700.00.

Just as a public service announcement:

The National Wealth Re-Distribution service has determined that any monies allocated to Chinee parts that are deemed to be an “acceptable loss“ in the event of a calamity, or some other man-made disaster, whether known or unknown, should be forwarded to:

The IGOTTABETTERUSEFIR IT Foundation
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Compared to 2200$ I used to spend on 1 single precision turbo. Lmao
 

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Hey I gotcha...Anybody can see that you're planning for a fairly big power combo, its just me I guess.
I'd prefer to take a "build up before" rather than "sweep up after" approach.
What's a "fairly big power combo" number to you? Are you assuming I'm shooting for a number larger then 500hp?

Or are you just being senile and don't like that I'm enjoying myself and having fun with it?
Maybe upset that I really don't care?
Maybe you missed the part where I said I plan to put a power plant worthy of these components in, later down the road?
Maybe just upset that somone isn't listening to the all mighty @CarMichael Angelo?
 
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What's a "fairly big power combo" number to you? Are you assuming I'm shooting for a number larger then 500hp?

Or are you just being senile and don't like that I'm enjoying myself and having fun with it?
Maybe upset that I really don't care?
Maybe you missed the part where I said I plan to put a power plant worthy of these components in, later down the road?
Maybe just upset that somone isn't listening to the all mighty @CarMichael Angelo?
None of the above..I said what I think in my last reply.
You do you.
 

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what turbos are you planning on using? I assume something of the gt45 variety. I can let you know what you will struggle with ahead of time.
 

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hmm similar to what I am using remotely on my 393 62/62 .63 AR exhaust but these are mounted in the rear bumper. Those should do well at the power level and should'nt be too difficult to spool [ although you never know until its running]
We used a pair of 72's on a 351 and could not get it to spool for :poo: until half track [not sure what the ar or size of the exducer was on that build]
 

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hmm similar to what I am using remotely on my 393 62/62 .63 AR exhaust but these are mounted in the rear bumper. Those should do well at the power level and should'nt be too difficult to spool [ although you never know until its running]
We used a pair of 72's on a 351 and could not get it to spool for :poo: until half track [not sure what the ar or size of the exducer was on that build]
That's why launch control (2 step or 3 step) and a trans brake is a wonderful thing :runaway:
 

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Stick car, leaving at 4500. couldnt build more than 10psi on the tree, 23psi in 2nd gear and 26psi out the other side.

building boost with an auto is very easy.
In the mazda (stick car) it was setup with a stage brake and slipper delay valve. We launched at around 25 PSI loaded on the brake full tight clutch no delay. We also dabbled in 30 on the 3 step. No load, clutch out with a magnus clutch slipper valve. Motor went south before we ever got any good data.