Factory Vert reinforcement plates and sub frame connectors

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Under my 83 Convertible this AM, removing the " factory reinforcement plates" to install new brake lines and probably wire wheel some areas and do some painting.... While removing the plates I thought " won't my new MM full length sub frame connectors fit where they are"... Read the install instructions and yep, they do....

Not sure I want to weld the factory plates to the car ( as per the MM instructions) and was actually wondering if anyone else had left them off when installing sub frame connectors?? Anyone have any thoughts about leaving them off when doing the sub frame connectors??
Thanks all.....
 

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Big concern is if I weld these on, instead of the bolt and rivet affair they are now, I will not be able to access brake and fuel lines.... I guess I can grind the welds off if need be.....
 

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What's wrong with the "bolt and rivet affair" that they are now. You get the benefit of SFC's and the convenience of them being removable for servicing the car? Imo, you don't want to have grind welds off if there ends up being a reason you need to get in there in the future.
 

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What's wrong with the "bolt and rivet affair" that they are now. You get the benefit of SFC's and the convenience of them being removable for servicing the car? Imo, you don't want to have grind welds off if there ends up being a reason you need to get in there in the future.
I haven't installed them yet, but my MM full length sub frame kit install instructions are saying the stock plates are welded in with the install of the kit.....
 
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Under my 83 Convertible this AM, removing the " factory reinforcement plates" to install new brake lines and probably wire wheel some areas and do some painting.... While removing the plates I thought " won't my new MM full length sub frame connectors fit where they are"... Read the install instructions and yep, they do....

Not sure I want to weld the factory plates to the car ( as per the MM instructions) and was actually wondering if anyone else had left them off when installing sub frame connectors?? Anyone have any thoughts about leaving them off when doing the sub frame connectors??
Thanks all.....
I am about to dobthe same thing on 88 vert. I was going to weld back on just for extra strength and put x brace back on if my new exhaust will allow. Few ppl said leave factory bracing off in doesnt do anything especially after subframe. But im going to do what mm recommended
 

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I am about to dobthe same thing on 88 vert. I was going to weld back on just for extra strength and put x brace back on if my new exhaust will allow. Few ppl said leave factory bracing off in doesnt do anything especially after subframe. But im going to do what mm recommended
I agree with your comment.... BUT, I was under the car since and the rear ones cover up the emergency brake cables too.... NON accessible after welding these....
 

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Here are some pictures of my front brace.... I had always thought that it was bent due to a " jacking" or 'Lift" event....... I was getting ready to straighten this with a BFH and it looks like a pretty nice bend for a wrong jacking point... I just went under the car and the other side ( not removed yet) has the same bend..
Has anyone else with these noticed this with their car???
Thanks...
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