No spindles included in any of the kits I've seen, but I never saw a price of $500 either, so YMMV. Like I said, the adapters and the hardware to mount them cost me $300, and was still worth it to me, I am quite pleased.
That was his very firs set put out for bid on ebay, he sold it with no reserve.
As of today, the brackets alone sell for $300, and the complete setup for $750 with plain rotors, and $825 with drilled and slotted rotors. No spindles included, but can be bought for an additional $80. This group purchase is a very good deal.
Brackets arent availiable for discount he says. We have our 5 so if anyone at all wants it this is your last chance if he has the sets available. I am going to try my 16" tt 2's but i doubth they are going to work at all.
I'm wondering here...the offset of the 2005 wheel is definitely different than the 1995-2004 wheels. But the offset is such (I'm confused by deeper vesus shallower) that the mounting surface is closer to the outside of the car, this would cause the rotor to be closer to the outside of the car. Right?
If so this will not give more clearance for the inner edge of the rim to the caliper, if anything it would give less. Right?
Oh well, if Steve says they fit them I'm not gonna argue. But Wilwood, FoMoCo, USBrake, SSBC, and Baer all say you need a 17" wheel to run 13" rotors. YMMV.