Lets talk about complete LED conversions.....
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82CapriRS
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+ 5000. ill be making another order for LED's along with my other crap. you'd think i would stop since im tryin to get rid of my car, it just never ends lol
Are you talking about these?
I think the Fox3 headlamp setup is WAY to big for that to look good. It might fly on an SN95 or S197, but not of a Fox.
Anyway, here are the daytime shots....I know...the car is dirty. now that its been said, it doesn't have to be said again.
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Front
Rear
Like I said...I wish the fronts were brighter during the day. That is the main reason I want to alter the parking lamps to have the same bulb....so its more visible.
I think the Fox3 headlamp setup is WAY to big for that to look good. It might fly on an SN95 or S197, but not of a Fox.
Anyway, here are the daytime shots....I know...the car is dirty. now that its been said, it doesn't have to be said again.
Video:
Front
Rear
Like I said...I wish the fronts were brighter during the day. That is the main reason I want to alter the parking lamps to have the same bulb....so its more visible.
1990Coupe
Founding Member
First off.. Prime the car is bad ass! I bought LED's from superbrightled's but obviously they weren't the right ones. Yours are so much brighter.
Second - for that relay, i don't need 2 of them do I? only one right? (sorry i thought there was only 1 relay for the blinkers, 1 for the hazards)
so my digital camera is dead an could only get a pic of the tach with the led in it to show the color an how bright it is. in the tach i ran a different bulb which is a single led from superbrightleds.com
What the PN on that bulb? that looks great.
Thx dude. I'm glad someone else can appreciate it. heh.
As far as the relay....technically you need two. One for the hazards and one for the turn signal (stupid Ford). However, since the LED flasher is square and not round like the stock one it will only work on the turn signal flasher because that is on a dongle about 6" from the fuse box. The hazard flasher actually plugs into a recessed hole in the fuse box that will only take a round flasher unit. Ugh. Have to find a solution for that.
82CapriRS
New Member
ill get the number on the bulb in the tach asap. prolly later tonight as im gonna be busy today. an the license plate lights do alot, sounds stupid but it just adds some new school to the good ole' fox.
Prime Lord: it all looks bada$$, ill be doing it all asap. thanks for the pics and whatnot
Prime Lord: it all looks bada$$, ill be doing it all asap. thanks for the pics and whatnot
The rule of LEDs is buy the color bulb that the outside light should be. Red bulbs for red lenses. Etc. If you have a clear lens, then for the turn signals you need amber colored bulbs.
The reason for the color matching is that if you have an amber lense. Like an 84-86 or 93 Cobra does out back and you use a white LED bulb then very little of the light will actually make it out. Incandescent bulbs basically contain every color of the rainbow, so a colored lens filters out the unwanted colors and only allows the desired color through. White LEDs have very little light in the yellow/orange end of the spectrum. Which is why they have that clean bluish tint. Since the light level would be so low in the case of amber the bulb would be essentially useless.
Wow. That felt like a physics lesson. Hope that clears it up.
The reason for the color matching is that if you have an amber lense. Like an 84-86 or 93 Cobra does out back and you use a white LED bulb then very little of the light will actually make it out. Incandescent bulbs basically contain every color of the rainbow, so a colored lens filters out the unwanted colors and only allows the desired color through. White LEDs have very little light in the yellow/orange end of the spectrum. Which is why they have that clean bluish tint. Since the light level would be so low in the case of amber the bulb would be essentially useless.
Wow. That felt like a physics lesson. Hope that clears it up.
So did you guys do the interior lights yet?
Since my car is away, i figure i'd start buying LED's. I took out my dome and hatch light. Since my car is a sunroof car, they are the same light. I wanna get LED's for these as well as the other interior lights
Some of these damn bulbs are ODD sizes.
So this is what i want to change
Dome/Hatch light
ashtray
glovebox
Vanity mirrors
As for the gauge cluster, i have something planned for that, but the warning lights are 161/198 bulbs if you want to replace the individual blinking blubs.
Unfortunately, i can't find LED dome lights. I think the bulb is an 89. Nobody makes an LED 89 so i'll need to customize something
Since my car is away, i figure i'd start buying LED's. I took out my dome and hatch light. Since my car is a sunroof car, they are the same light. I wanna get LED's for these as well as the other interior lights
Some of these damn bulbs are ODD sizes.
So this is what i want to change
Dome/Hatch light
ashtray
glovebox
Vanity mirrors
As for the gauge cluster, i have something planned for that, but the warning lights are 161/198 bulbs if you want to replace the individual blinking blubs.
Unfortunately, i can't find LED dome lights. I think the bulb is an 89. Nobody makes an LED 89 so i'll need to customize something
Actually, on superbrightled's....a 4410 bulb MAY fit in the dome and hatch light of a sunroof car.
Now gotta see about the other bulbs
Now gotta see about the other bulbs
WHY IS NOTHING CONSISTENT ON THESE CARS!
I have a rigid loop festoon bulb (4410) in the hatch....this is the one I bought to replace it. I had to take the dremel and grind down the tabs on my light socket so that the loops of the bulb would fit over them. after that, it works perfectly.
Since I have the T-Tops, I have the standard ford dome light and a 194 bulb in that. I seem to remember from my old 89 Sunroof car that the dome light was different, but I can't remember how. Its interesting that it uses another of those strange bulbs though. Isn't the dome light mounted in front of the sunroof? When I get home I'll pop my hatch light out and take a picture of the mounted bulb & modifactions.
I'm not sure on the glove box light, I haven't looked at it yet. And....there is an ashtray light? I didn't know that. heh.
The interesting one is going to be the map light. Mainly because mine doesn't work.....whenever I drop the map light the damn thing trips a fuse and kills my radio. I think the screws are too long and shorting on the roof of the car. But I don't use it, so I haven't been worried about it.
As far as the vanity mirrors go....well...I don't have visors.....so you're on your own there.
On a side note, one of my license plate lights has died. 3 of the 6 LEDs are dead and the remaining 3 are flashing like a strobe light. They are about 2 years old. Not sure why that happened as these things are supposed to last longer than the car.
Now, I've been looking at replacements....and while I could just get the same cool white one's I have now...there are several new options available since I ordered these. The cool white LEDs run in the 9500k color temp range, they have several offerings in the 194 size that run in the 4500-5500k range (Pure White) they call it. A normal incandescent bulb runs in the 3000k range. I definitely don't want to go lower than 4500k to keep away from the incandescent look....but at the same time, I don't know what the coloring will be. I can't find any lit examples of the difference b/t 4500/5500/6000/9500. I obviously know what the 9500k bulbs look like, but I have no basis of comparison to the others. Has anyone seen the new Lexus LED license plate lights? thats what I'm picturing the lower numbers to look like. hrmm....
I have a rigid loop festoon bulb (4410) in the hatch....this is the one I bought to replace it. I had to take the dremel and grind down the tabs on my light socket so that the loops of the bulb would fit over them. after that, it works perfectly.
Since I have the T-Tops, I have the standard ford dome light and a 194 bulb in that. I seem to remember from my old 89 Sunroof car that the dome light was different, but I can't remember how. Its interesting that it uses another of those strange bulbs though. Isn't the dome light mounted in front of the sunroof? When I get home I'll pop my hatch light out and take a picture of the mounted bulb & modifactions.
I'm not sure on the glove box light, I haven't looked at it yet. And....there is an ashtray light? I didn't know that. heh.
The interesting one is going to be the map light. Mainly because mine doesn't work.....whenever I drop the map light the damn thing trips a fuse and kills my radio. I think the screws are too long and shorting on the roof of the car. But I don't use it, so I haven't been worried about it.
As far as the vanity mirrors go....well...I don't have visors.....so you're on your own there.
On a side note, one of my license plate lights has died. 3 of the 6 LEDs are dead and the remaining 3 are flashing like a strobe light. They are about 2 years old. Not sure why that happened as these things are supposed to last longer than the car.
Now, I've been looking at replacements....and while I could just get the same cool white one's I have now...there are several new options available since I ordered these. The cool white LEDs run in the 9500k color temp range, they have several offerings in the 194 size that run in the 4500-5500k range (Pure White) they call it. A normal incandescent bulb runs in the 3000k range. I definitely don't want to go lower than 4500k to keep away from the incandescent look....but at the same time, I don't know what the coloring will be. I can't find any lit examples of the difference b/t 4500/5500/6000/9500. I obviously know what the 9500k bulbs look like, but I have no basis of comparison to the others. Has anyone seen the new Lexus LED license plate lights? thats what I'm picturing the lower numbers to look like. hrmm....
Reverse lights came in......I got these from V-LED's...and I must say...they are pretty f'n bright. I'll have to report back after some night maneuvers to check the visibility....but they are much brighter than I thought they would be.
Mike,
Here are the closeups of the hatch light. Its kind of hard to tell but I had to dremel the sides of those two prongs so that the loops of the bulb would fit over them. No biggie.
And finally, the reason I was asking about the inside of the tail light lens....I picked up one of these:
I was thinking about wiring a bunch of them together to fill the entire brake light lens. One problem. By my calculations, it would cost about $180 PER SIDE to do this....I didn't realize how small 1½" was in comparison to the lens. By rough estimate you'd need a grid of 6x3 of these to fill the whole lens....they're $10 each.
However, were it a prudent investment, it would be completely badass and completely functional. Oh well...maybe when I have more money.
Mike,
Here are the closeups of the hatch light. Its kind of hard to tell but I had to dremel the sides of those two prongs so that the loops of the bulb would fit over them. No biggie.
And finally, the reason I was asking about the inside of the tail light lens....I picked up one of these:
I was thinking about wiring a bunch of them together to fill the entire brake light lens. One problem. By my calculations, it would cost about $180 PER SIDE to do this....I didn't realize how small 1½" was in comparison to the lens. By rough estimate you'd need a grid of 6x3 of these to fill the whole lens....they're $10 each.
However, were it a prudent investment, it would be completely badass and completely functional. Oh well...maybe when I have more money.
Shaolin Crane
Banned
Think when you are finished converting the car over to LED's you can post up a list of whats what to everything for those of us who want to do the same but are lazy 
Okay, thanks for the pic. That helps. SO i need two of those LED's because the sunroof cars use the hatch light as their dome light as well.
I have the same type of Reverse lights in my G35. They are pretty bright.
I have the same type of Reverse lights in my G35. They are pretty bright.
ID89GT
10 Year Member
Wow those look amazing. I got the smoked lenses so those turn signals look a hundred times better I think. You should make a list of all the stuff you used when you are done haha
1990Coupe
Founding Member
Update on the reverse lights: They are in fact brighter than the stock incandescent bulbs. I can see the entire planet when backing up. Very pleased.
And yeah, after I've completed each stage (for example once all my exterior lights are done) I will make a new thread with all pictures, parts, etc. It'll be grand.
And yeah, after I've completed each stage (for example once all my exterior lights are done) I will make a new thread with all pictures, parts, etc. It'll be grand.
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