Engine Maf Symptoms

[Zebanks]

I have a 1989 5.0 and its not running right. it has the signs and symptoms of a dirty maf. But I cleaned it and I cleaned my air filter and it still has a rough idle and dies when I start it up if I don't give it as to keep it running. So what else could it be? Thanks

 

[Noobz347]

Pull Codes:


Courtesy of Jrichker:

Here's how to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.

The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.

The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems. This is crucial: the same wire that provides the ground to dump the codes provides signal ground for the TPS, EGR, ACT and Map/Baro sensors. If it fails, you will have poor performance, economy and drivability problems

Some codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off, clutch depressed to the floor and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

 

[madspeed]

@Noobz347 maybe we should just sticky a" Any engine related issues... ALWAYS PULL CODES thread

 

[mikestang63]

Pull Codes:


Courtesy of Jrichker:

Noobz, remember your recent post about moderating newb posts, especially the ones where the question has been asked a thousand times? ahem.............

 

[madspeed]

 

[Casey2552]

That's a little rude , if ya want answers pull codes first then people here will be able to help better , but sounds like iac valve problem

 

[Noobz347]

That's a little rude , if ya want answers pull codes first then people here will be able to help better , but sounds like iac valve problem

The thing is that it could be 1 (or more) of any number of things. It's not rude to try and find ways to state the obvious. Lots of folks try and avoid the "spit ball" approach and attempt to narrow it down some. Pulling codes is a good first step.

 

[Noobz347]

@Noobz347 maybe we should just sticky a" Any engine related issues... ALWAYS PULL CODES thread

This actually isn't a bad idea. We could put up a sticky with @jrichker 's instructions on how to pull them. It might save folks some time when they're trying to diagnose a problem.