Update: Good news for people looking to do a budget build:
me:
So by dealing directly with Magnusun you may get a better deal. We'll see when Magnusun shoots me an email back.
Link him to the thread where I advise people to undercut their package deal by buying from the supplier? Lolvery nice!
Since you are emailing with him, you should ask him to join our site(takes 30 seconds) and talk directly with us.
I see that as one of the main problems with mod motors. If you go on Honda, Fbody, Corvette, or other car sites, the sponsors, producers, shops, and other people are actively involved in all the threads about new products and existing products. Mustangs get very, very little of this. Link him to this, Chris.
Link him to the thread where I advise people to undercut their package deal by buying from the supplier? Lol
Just was doing some calculations in my head if I really wanted this kit or not.
Intercooled Supercharger Kit for the '99-04 Mustang GT - $4499.99
Shipping kit to my house - $150
New Hood - Roughly $400
Painting new hood - Roughly $200
Some misc stuff that I know I will probably need, we will say $500, just to be safe.
So, total right now would be $5749.99 , give or take a little.
That sucks
I believe the differences between the two blowers are inlet design and fact that the 5th Gen comes with a low friction coating on rotors to improve tolerances. The 5th Gen might be "S" ported as well, but I'm not 100%.I posted up a question about the difference between their "5th generation" M112 Eaton and a 03 cobra M112 - cuz it seems like the way to go would be finding a ported 03 cobra blower and using that instead of using the $999 upgrade TVS one, cuz i think a stock eaton would be too modest for my future goals.
Just was doing some calculations in my head if I really wanted this kit or not.
Intercooled Supercharger Kit for the '99-04 Mustang GT - $4499.99
Shipping kit to my house - $150
New Hood - Roughly $400
Painting new hood - Roughly $200
Some misc stuff that I know I will probably need, we will say $500, just to be safe.
So, total right now would be $5749.99 , give or take a little.
That sucks
see thats exactly why i didnt go tork tech. it looks cheaper than the kenne bell but you need a new hood and i said heck no. I like the stock hood and i also didnt wanna go through the pain of getting it painted too.
How do you figure? The Tork Tech kit was the brain child of FAST Secialties and Charles from Magnum Powers (who I shouldn't need to tell you has one of the best reps for putting out a quality product in the industry). As such, the kit utilizes a 5th Generation 4-loeb Magnum Powers MP112 that's more than capable of running head to head with a 2.1L Kenne Bell twin screw. Add the fact that the Tork Tech comes standard with 42lb/hr injectors and a high flow fuel pump (Kenne Bell supplies their kits with 36lb/hr injectors and boost-a-pump band-aid...but has the 42's as an option for another $350).
The Tork Tech kit also comes standard with a large bore single blade oval throttle body, high flow intake tube and a 90mm Mass Air Meter with a shielded open element filter. Kenne Bell wants an additional $812.00 for the "big tube" kit, that includes switch chip upgrade, large diameter intake tube, throttle body and Mass air upgrade + another $153 for the cold air kit. The intake system is also only available with a maximum 75mm standard round bore throttle set up).
The Tork Tech kit comes with a heavier duty intercooler and heat exchanger, which (unless you want to run race gas in the tank and insane amounts of timing to make big dyno numbers like Kenne Bell does when testing their systems....)certainly comes in handy when trying to keep things pump gas friendly when swapping out pulleys for additional boost later on down the road.
Top it off with the fact that the Tork Tech comes standard with an 8-rib supercharger drive system (a $399 option with Kenne Bell) and I really can't see how anyone would think the Kenne Bell is a better kit?
If the M112 isn't enough power for ya....no sweat. Just upgrad to the 600hp capable TVS 1900 for an extra $1,000 and you're good to go. Sure, Kenne Bell has the option for the 2.6L which lets be honest, doesn't make a whole lot more power than that, but you're paying over twice as much for the blower upgrad.....and it won't even clear the stock hood on top of that!
Let's see what we've got???
Kenne Bell Standard 9-14psi kit.......$4,999........................Tork Tech kit......................$4,499
Hood modification (not necessary)...........................$0.............................Hood modification (option).............$199
High flow intake kit (option) ....................................$812.........................High flow intake kit (std)................$0
Cold air intake (option)..........................................$153..........................Cold air intake (std)......................$0
42lb/hr fuel injectors (option)..................................$350..........................42lb/hr fuel injectors(std)..............$0
Fuel pump upgrade (not an option)..........................$100..........................High Flow fuel pump (std)..............$0
8-rib drive pulleys (option)......................................$399.........................8-rib drive pulleys (std).................$0
Sub total............................................................$6,831.........................................................................$4,698
2.6L Upgrade.......................................................$1,999.........................TVS 1900 Upgrade.......................$999
GRAND TOTAL................................................. $8,812............................................................. $5,697
Hmmmmm......you tell me which of these two kits comes the better deal when you add it all up?
Who knows, the difference between the superchargerless kit and the Magnusun kit is about $2k, and for the TVS $3k. Those are cheap prices for those blowers - so maybe nothing, maybe a lot.I wonder how much cheaper the kit would be if you got the supercharger separate??
Hi Chris …
Thank you for your HTV1900 Supercharger enquiry.
Harrop manufactures the most advanced supercharger technology available, developed in conjunction with Eaton Corporation. The new HTV series is based on the Eaton TVS rotors, and is proving to be the superior solution for many applications.
As an indication of our new HTV supercharger retail prices ...
· Harrop HTV1350 (for any input/actuator configuration) A$2,275
· Harrop HTV1900 (for any input/actuator configuration) A$2,410
· Harrop HTV2300 (for any input/actuator configuration) A$2,500
The US-Aussie exchange rate today is 0.65, which equates to the HTV1900 costing approximately US$1570. The prices shown are FOB Melbourne excluding any duty/taxes (which should be nil).
I have attached some specifications of each for your consideration, and can forward more detailed drawing of the HTV ranges if required.
We have no knowledge of the compatibility of our HTV range to the kits you indicate below. It would almost certainly require some adaptation.
Feel free to call for further information. (+61.3.9474-0900).
This is the correct supercharger though, i got the contact and info from this thread: LS1GTO.com Forums - Magnuson MP 122HH supercharger - Page 5
Haha, i know - it's hilarious that they tie it to wether a blower is carb approved or not. The contact info is a page or two after that.Cool....I especially like how half way through the page they turned it into a political/bashing/Global warming thread and totally spun it out. It seems Stangnet doesn't hold the patent on BS derailments like I thought we did.
see thats exactly why i didnt go tork tech. it looks cheaper than the kenne bell but you need a new hood and i said heck no. I like the stock hood and i also didnt wanna go through the pain of getting it painted too.
but i would like to see a video of a tork tech and a kenne bell GT racing with the same mods.
I am curious which is really the better setup. cant really compare dyno numbers. and the tork tech isnt any cheaper than a kb once its all said and done. unless you just modify the stock hood
Hi Chris …
The MP112 & MP1900 are Magnuson Products items.
Our HH & HTV range are not a direct swap – adaptation would be required.