NikwoaC's "Commitment Issues" Engine Build

Discussion in '1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-' started by NIKwoaC, Mar 12, 2011.

  1. Truth, haha. She hasn't been bothering me as much since I finally finished the french door install in our den... Though her partially-restored roller kitchen island has climbed it's way to the top of the honey-do list. Always something. :)
     
  2. I think he is still busy with the honey-do list:bang:.

    I heard:rolleyes: he traded the mustang in for a more family friendly minivan:cool:.
     
  3. Or a Prius :nono:
     
  4. Blasphemes!
     
  5. @hoopty5.0 oh hai.

    I still have the Moose, but I have not done much with it other than drive the pants off of it and make a few little dumb tweaks here and there.

    @HotFox My side of the garage will never house a minivan... Nevar! Now my wife, she's free to drive whatever boring crap she wants haha.
     
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  6. Glad you are enjoying the car
     
  7. How to put way too much effort into dropping 20 lbs from your 4 eye

    ...By NIKwoaC

    After owning my '86 for 13 years now, there is not much left about these cars that I don't know about. With that said though, I recently learned that in 1987, along with the aero-nose changeover, Ford also changed the front bumper structure from steel to a composite/fiberglass unit, which is a shade over 20 lbs lighter than the outgoing steel counterpart. I also learned that a handful of people have successfully converted their pre-87 cars to the fiberglass bumper.

    SO I thought, "should be simple enough, right?" Well as it turns out, no, not really. But what the hell, I did it anyway, and here's the process:

    Step 1: Hit the junk yard, find an un-crashed aero-nose Fox, and yank the bumper. Mine was cracked on one side, but not in a structural location, so I went with it, planning on just repairing the crack myself.

    Repairing the crack-

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    Step 2: Pull the bumper cover off your car and remove the bumper.

    Here's a shot with the fiberglass bumper sitting on top of the steel one for size/shape reference. Note the turn signals are integrated into the steel bumper... We'll address that later.

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    Step 3: Modify the 4-eye bumper shocks. As it turns out, the bumper shocks are completely different. The 87+ cars use a longer shock with a completely different mounting flange- longer probably to accommodate the aero nose cover. You can't use the newer shocks because it will push the cover about 1" away from fitting back onto the car.

    New shock on the right. Note the stroke is the same, just the shock cylinder is longer. Please ignore the chaos that is my work bench haha.

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    Installed with the 87+ shocks.

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    You end up trimming a little off the top AND bottom of the 4-eye shocks to fit into the fiberglass bumper. I mounted the newer shocks in the car, measured from the floor to the top and bottom of the flange, then mounted the original shock, marked lines at those measurements and chopped them off. Make sure they're still level after you hack at them, and a little Rustoleum will keep the rust away.

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    Step 3.1: This was more of an optional step to satisfy my over-analyzing engineering brain. I made brackets from angle aluminum to "spread out the load" from the narrower '86 flange to the wider mounting surface of the fiberglass bumper.

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    I should mention at this point that you need to slot the mounting holes in the fiberglass inward to fit the narrower bolt pattern in the 4-eye shock flanges. Here is a shot with the bumper loosely bolted in place. If you want to use washers, you'll have to trim them to clear the bumper geometry, as you can see here.

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    Step 4: Mark and cut out windows for the turn signals. This takes some trial and error, fitting up the bumper cover, trimming a little at a time, and trial-fitting the turn signals themselves.

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    Since all this gets covered up by the bumper cover, I was not too particular about making the cuts look pretty. If you're super anal, you could come back and sand them smooth, but... Meh, this already took me long enough.

    Step 5: Fab up mounting brackets to hang the turn signals. I used 1/8" X 1" aluminum strip. Sorry, my turn signal housings are pretty dirty in these shots.

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    Step 6: Hang 'em. Again, this takes some trial and error to get them to sit in the openings on the bumper cover where you want them.

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    So that's pretty much it, from here you can just button the car back up.

    There are a couple of details that I may circle back around to in the future if I get REAL bored- but for the most part it's done. All in all, you could probably do this in a full weekend, assuming you did not need to repair it like I did, and you already had the bumper and all the materials. I did not weigh the aluminum parts, but I imagine it's a wash with the steel and fiberglass you remove.

    I promise I'm still working on more significant stuff for the car- You can probably see the TKO parts on the workbench in a couple shots above, and 351 parts are still floating around the garage. Stay tuned.
     
  8. Very interesting I may have to visit this idea. Ohh and glad you posted again lol
     
  9. Nik! I live near Dayton now. If I remember right, you're east of indy. When can I come check out the car, and/or when are you coming for a few runs down Kilkare? You should consider coming out to check out my foxbodies, despite their state of incompletion :)
     
  10. Dude we definitely need to meet up sometime. The wife has family outside of Columbus so we go through Dayton all the time. Spoiler alert though, the wife is preggers, so travel will be somewhat complicated. I'm sure we can figure something out though. I need to actually meet some of the people on StangNet in real life haha.

    So are you stationed out there? Isn't there an Air Force Base?
     
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  11. check facebook for a message
     
  12. Damn, it's been almost 2 years since I touched this thread. I'm still alive and I still own the car, so here's a little taste of what I messed around this weekend...

    Radiator overflow tank cleaning...!

    Yea I know it sounds super boring, but I have a million little things that I've been putting off on the car, so I've started to chisel away at the list.

    Here's what it looked like AFTER an overnight soak in a bleach/water solution. The soak in bleach did NOTHING, it was a complete waste of time and I hate working with bleach, so I recommend to just not even try this.

    Sorry, StangNet is rotating my pics, don't know why.

    Inside:

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    Back-lit outside view, you can really see the staining and crud stuck inside the tank.

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    So then my next effort was a solution of CLR and water, with some spare screws tossed in to act as an abrasive. Surprisingly, the CLR didn't seem to do a lot, I think the screws did the most work.

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    So then, I tried a soak in a solution of OxyClean "Versatile" and water. After 30 minutes, I came out to find this... Something was definitely happening, finally.

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    I'm skipping ahead a little, but the OxyClean soak had such promising results that I dumped it and made a slurry of OxyClean powder, a little bit of water and those screws again. Capped the tank and gave it some careful shaking, holding it at different angles, and this is the result:

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    By far, the OxyClean slurry with screws was the most effective. Had I started with that, this would have been a 15 minute job. Here it is installed on my Flex-A-Lite fan (itself out of the car because I had to replace the motor after ~8 years of service, give or take).

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  13. Welcome back Nik, how's that new baby doing?
     
  14. Looks good. On my todo list is to mount my efan in my stock shroud and mount it.
     
  15. eww! Nice job, man!
     
  16. Good to see you back, man. I am going to go pull mine and do that right now. It has a leak needing fixed anyway.

    Edit: Engine is pulled... What are you putting back in?
     
  17. I think you might be confusing a fan motor being out of service for the motor being out of his car, unless I missed something.
     
  18. Happy you posted back up. Don't be such a stranger.
     
  19. Ah, that makes more sense. Wishful thinking on my end I guess.