Ok,....i'm Drawing A Line In The Snow Then.

CarMichael Angelo

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When using your knowledge or knowing how to use your equipment (as is my case) just helping someone is gratifying, I'm sure he could charge a fee for his services but thats may not be what its all about be'n on here. Like I grabbed a neighbor's truck the other day and took it to his house, it was just a few blocks away and I refused payment, two reasons
He is a neighbor, we are supposed to look out for each other
I felt guilty because the truck had been sitting alongside the road for several days and I was sure I knew whom it belonged to but kept forgetting to stop by and ask about it. And I told him so. My bad.
I feel we are neighbours here and we help each other, although I'm probably the least helpful but hopefully I can get a grin outa ya with my lack of knowledge.
When someone enlists my services I get a fee for the knowledgeable use of my equipment.
If I had use of his services he would get a gift card to a fancy restaurant (likely micky d's) and a free toe if he ever broke down or had to many drinks
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If he was ever in my area I'd take him to lunch for ya. After all we are kinda like neighbors on here, some 'yards' just look better than others
That's what I need....a free toe.
 
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I have been here for over 16 years and helped all kinds of people from literally around the word - Oslo Norway, Saudi Arabia, Korea and probably a few more places that I don't remember. I have scolded, pushed, prodded, poked, and occasionally inspired people to find and fix things that they didn't have all the answers to.

It's always been free, a community service to Mustang enthusiasts so that they can enjoy their Mustangs. I have been offered money, pizza and beer (I don't drink anything alcoholic), but never took anyone up on their offer. I once had a car repair shop owner ask me for assistance and he was going to charge the owner of a Factory Five roadster for the work. I told him that I I would help on one condition.: he was to put a dollar value the information I gave him to fix the car. Then when someone who needed work done but didn't have the money for it, he would subtract the price of my help from their bill. I never heard from him after that.

I will continue to provide free help for all those willing to listen and honestly represent themselves and their problems for as long as I can.
Jesus said 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. (Mark:12:31 NAS) and 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. (Matt 7:2 NAS).
What information and help I give away here on Stangnet is my way of fulfilling those two commandments.; it is something that we should all consider.

Merry Christmas!!!
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I have been here for over 16 years and helped all kinds of people from literally around the word - Oslo Norway, Saudi Arabia, Korea and probably a few more places that I don't remember. I have scolded, pushed, prodded, poked, and occasionally inspired people to find and fix things that they didn't have all the answers to.

It's always been free, a community service to Mustang enthusiasts so that they can enjoy their Mustangs. I have been offered money, pizza and beer (I don't drink anything alcoholic), but never took anyone up on their offer. I once had a car repair shop owner ask me for assistance and he was going to charge the owner of a Factory Five roadster for the work. I told him that I I would help on one condition.: he was to put a dollar value the information I gave him to fix the car. Then when someone who needed work done but didn't have the money for it, he would subtract the price of my help from their bill. I never heard from him after that.

I will continue to provide free help for all those willing to listen and honestly represent themselves and their problems for as long as I can.
Jesus said 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. (Mark:12:31 NAS) and 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. (Matt 7:2 NAS).
What information and help I give away here on Stangnet is my way of fulfilling those two commandments.; it is something that we should all consider.

Merry Christmas!!!
What if all your neighbors think your crazy?
I know they love me, I got that big red truck with the thingy on the back.
 

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I have no problem with people who drink a beer or a glass of wine with a meal; that is their right and I respect it. However, I choose not to drink anything alcoholic, that is my right and others should respect it as well.

It's honesty time...
My dislike for alcohol came to me long before I became a Christian. In my high school years I saw many of my friends whose lives were wildly out of control because of their drinking habit. One of the guys that I graduated high school with died the night of our graduation because he got drunk and ran into the massive structural support of a bridge. He took the lives of the 3 other people in the car with him.

On top of that my mother like many women, was a closet alcoholic. She would sneak a shot of Gin when she thought no one was looking. Some people just get relaxed and laid back when the drink, others react differently. My mother got mean as an angry rattlesnake, and it got worse after my father died the year after I graduated from high school.

I am 70 years old and God has healed many of the hurts of my past life. However there are still times that I have to deal with the missing pieces because I had an alcoholic mother who was often emotionally unavailable. People seldom talk about the inner damage caused by a alcoholic parent; it may diminish with the passage of time, but it never goes away.
 
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Nothin better than a cup of coffee, rock and roll, family and self respect, I like your handel on life, know what I mean.
 

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I have no problem with people who drink a beer or a glass of wine with a meal; that is their right and I respect it. However, I choose not to drink anything alcoholic, that is my right and others should respect it as well.

It's honesty time...
My dislike for alcohol came to me long before I became a Christian. In my high school years I saw many of my friends whose lives were wildly out of control because of their drinking habit. One of the guys that I graduated high school with died the night of our graduation because he got drunk and ran into the massive structural support of a bridge. He took the lives of the 3 other people in the car with him.

On top of that my mother like many women, was a closet alcoholic. She would sneak a shot of Gin when she thought no one was looking. Some people just get relaxed and laid back when the drink, others react differently. My mother got mean as an angry rattlesnake, and it got worse after my father died the year after I graduated from high school.

I am 70 years old and God has healed many of the hurts of my past life. However there are still times that I have to deal with the missing pieces because I had an alcoholic mother who was often emotionally unavailable. People seldom talk about the inner damage caused by a alcoholic parent; it may diminish with the passage of time, but it never goes away.
I understand Joe, i was playing around with you.

I do respect your choices, least of all because i respect you personally.

I've had, like many others, personal tragedies that have effected my life profoundly. Deaths of people intensely close to me in incidents of such harshness that i don't believe i'll ever be free of the dreams that frequent me, nor should I be free from them, I guess. Somehow, to be free from them, i almost feel it would be a dishonor of some of the best human beings i can ever know.

Now, none of the difficult memories for me involved alcohol, so i have a tendency to be more cavalier than perhaps i should be about the possible abuses of it.

My father was an abusive dick, but not because of alcohol.

This said to mean, no disrespect intended to you or anyone else here.
 

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@jrichker , while you are a very knowledgeable and helpful person, I personally think there is a difference between providing someone the info so they can use it themselves, and the person this thread is about spending his time physically fixing people's issues with their car. Basically, you would have to go to someone's garage and rewire their car for them, or physically diagnose it, lol. Know what I mean? Not trying to down play what you do for us here though, honestly, just pointing out why maybe this was brought about.
 
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No sure why this even started, I'm thinking someone was taken advantage of or maybe some one feels that someone has been taken advantage of, either way that sucks, a person that asks for help and is given quality advice and doen't take it just didn't get the answers they wanted. Now if someone go's the extra mile and solves their issues through whatever means deserves something in return, what that something is I don't know but I sure would figuare it out.
Some people have no quilt.
If he made my crap livable by using time and talent I surely would find a way to compensate.
But then this could be about whether someone drinks or not, which I do very little of,
 

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@jrichker , while you are a very knowledgeable and helpful person, I personally think there is a difference between providing someone the info so they can use it themselves, and the person this thread is about spending his time physically fixing people's issues with their car. Basically, you would have to go to someone's garage and rewire their car for them, or physically diagnose it, lol. Know what I mean? Not trying to down play what you do for us here though, honestly, just pointing out why maybe this was brought about.

I think you missed the point, and that is Stangnet is a place where we share with the community the talents, tricks and time we have for free.
It is a give away, a way to share what we have learned, experienced, and tried with others so that we can be a help to them.

That help can be in the form of a tech note with drawings and detailed instructions on how to troubleshoot a problem. Or it could be using the Internet to remote connect to someone's laptop to fix the tune in their car. The common element is that it takes time, and time is not something you can replace or recover. Yet we still give it away to help others, most of whom we will never meet. It is our contribution to making the world we live in a better place.

I am not opposed to giving a thumbs up and some promotion for someone's work and enterprise. The key thing is that Stangnet is a place were we share our knowledge and experience with others without the attitude of "What do I get out of it". Here on Stangnet, freely we have received, freely we share with others is my point.
 
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Here's the "point" Joe. @jrichker

You can personally give away every schematic you own, and offer assistance on every aspect within your vast field of experience w/ gigantic tech white pages if you chose to do so. It is certainly appreciated.
Everybody here does what they can to help each other out w/o asking anything in return in somewhat the same way.

Before you go off on a tangent thinking that this thread is the individual asking, or thinking they need something more for their assistance, you need to step off that box.

Because you'd be wrong.

This is me thinking that he can profit from his knowledge as so many others already do. He has already proven himself more than willing to help for free,...asking nothing in return. I personally know of more than one Sunday in where he spent multiple hours on the phone w/ a client laptop tied in to the server trying to solve somebodies issues....including me.

Like knowing and being able to troubleshoot a 12v electrical system as you do, successfully solving a stand alone ECU tuning issue is something that 95% of the contingency here sees as black magic. W/O you personally, I'd be more than stuck w/ a nut that may fall off in my engine, magnets that would have heat fatigued by now, and drilled a hole that walked all over the place. That kinda advice I appreciate greatly,...but it isn't what I'm talking about.

This may be more of an example:

You offer to help me troubleshoot a circuit. Live.

I've got a really good camera that I can set up to be your eyes on a live stream,..and strap it to my head. You get on the phone, and through trial and error spend three hours on a Sunday helping me solve it.
I thank you,...and ask you what I can pay you for your help. You refuse anything stating that that's what friends do for each other.

Then two weeks later I need something else.
Then a few days later a completely different individual needs the same 3 hour session.
Then a tweak.
Then somebody else needs the three hour thing...

How long before you do the "Sorry,..I have a life thing" Joe?

People here are probably 70/30 DIYers depending on what it is the're doing. Most will do the stuff that involves turning a wrench,....but only a few will mess w/ the black magic because they have to or think they can.

Then they run into a wall, and need help. They are left w/ hoping you or somebody like you can solve the problem, or they have their junk towed and they pay shop labor rates or more to get it fixed by a different expert.

So then.....if you or the "other guy" I'm talking about come on here and throw me a bone to help me solve a one liner issue I post up. Thanks...I hope to be able to return the favor someday.

But after you've spent the 3rd of three 3 hr sessions.......and you're finally at the end of that 9th free hour on a Sunday,....Maybe you'd be better able to justify the "help" if you were able to explain to your wife that wanted to go to Costco that you were making the necessary monies to be able to buy some of the junk that you won't need that'll end up in that basket.

I'm not saying you need to start up a business much in the same way I'm not with the other...I'm saying to the "Clients" that the "Server" has a life,..and to be considerate of that when they reach out to him and ask for help.
 
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