Say you acquired a 5.0 out of a foxbody for $100 bucks or so and you're wanting to do a budget build. What would be your route? The rear of the car is taken care of, and lets not focus on the tranny. This is basicly my situation right now and I am looking for ideas. Remember *budget build*
So lets say you have a 5.0 sitting in your garage
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'66 coupe
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I have an 80k-mile GT40P longblock sitting in my garage in Orlando.
I paid $375 for everything straight out of the Mountaineer, intake, oil pan, harness, etc...
If I was really trying to stick to a budget, yet make it reliable enough to beat on in the '95, I'd put in new bearings and rings. Then port the heads and intake to match, put an sfi balancer on, 1.7 roller rockers, and call it a day.
All I'd need then is to get the Mustang oiling setup on it, use my shorties, and buy the elbow for the intake.
Should be under $800 for my approach. That's a budget.
EDIT: forgot my shorties won't work on the heads...there goes the budget. But there are usually some GT40P headers on ebay going for cheap('cheap' being normal price for headers; still beats most prices for 'p' headers)
I paid $375 for everything straight out of the Mountaineer, intake, oil pan, harness, etc...
If I was really trying to stick to a budget, yet make it reliable enough to beat on in the '95, I'd put in new bearings and rings. Then port the heads and intake to match, put an sfi balancer on, 1.7 roller rockers, and call it a day.
All I'd need then is to get the Mustang oiling setup on it, use my shorties, and buy the elbow for the intake.
Should be under $800 for my approach. That's a budget.
EDIT: forgot my shorties won't work on the heads...there goes the budget. But there are usually some GT40P headers on ebay going for cheap('cheap' being normal price for headers; still beats most prices for 'p' headers)
Adam95GT
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Gt40p Heads FRPP HEADERS/MAC Headers do work!
explorer manifold
TFS 1 cam, E303, or a comp extreme energy
Pulleys
65mm-70mm TB
new belts and gaskets
explorer manifold
TFS 1 cam, E303, or a comp extreme energy
Pulleys
65mm-70mm TB
new belts and gaskets
With the foucs on NA ..........
OR mid pipe ... go used so you can get rid of it if you go LT's later
Pulleys used
Home made cai
If you would consider a motor mod .....
At this time I'd sink no money in:
headers
tb
maf
inj's
roller rockers
ignition
catback
or any other tiny gain for the big buck spent mod
Go directly to an after market intake such as tfs or edel
If you go for the intake ... you should think way ahead to make the
best decision about runner length
If a shorter power band is something that would not bother you .........
I'd consider an oem Cobra intake ... if one came up for cheap
That is how I'd start ... providing you already got steep gears
Grady
OR mid pipe ... go used so you can get rid of it if you go LT's later
Pulleys used
Home made cai
If you would consider a motor mod .....
At this time I'd sink no money in:
headers
tb
maf
inj's
roller rockers
ignition
catback
or any other tiny gain for the big buck spent mod
Go directly to an after market intake such as tfs or edel
If you go for the intake ... you should think way ahead to make the
best decision about runner length
If a shorter power band is something that would not bother you .........
I'd consider an oem Cobra intake ... if one came up for cheap
That is how I'd start ... providing you already got steep gears
Grady
With 410's,a mid length runner upper, and beefy rear end ........
I'd think you are going for some decent power
Your end result would be h/c/i and all supporting mods
Installing some of them, one at a time would be foolish like the cam
as later on ... when funds allow ... you would just be tearing it all
down again to do the heads
Some of the supporting mods won't work all that well by themselves
like larger inj's, maf and the like
I'd save the LT install for when you do the h/c/i as at that time you
can easily lay the LT's in the bay when the motor is in a heads off
condition
Since the plan is one part at a time .... I'd consider something like this
for a first install phase.
Plan and save the entire amount for heads and cam that go well
with your current intake.
Plan and save for a mid pipe to go with your current LT's
Install the h/c/i and LT's/mid pipe in one install.
That would get your major motor work all done and out of the way
I would also say if you need a timing chain/gear set ... you would want
to do that while you got the front of the motor off.
Now here is where you got to keep a cool head with this plan :Word:
You still got tiny 19's and oem pump and they won't keep up with the h/c/i
So you'll need to drive it easy like until you can go to larger intank pump,
inj's, and meter.
I'd do the low gain stuff like tb, rr's, etc at the last
Are you gonna tune it?
Grady
With 410's,a mid length runner upper, and beefy rear end ........
I'd think you are going for some decent power
Your end result would be h/c/i and all supporting mods
Installing some of them, one at a time would be foolish like the cam
as later on ... when funds allow ... you would just be tearing it all
down again to do the heads
Some of the supporting mods won't work all that well by themselves
like larger inj's, maf and the like
I'd save the LT install for when you do the h/c/i as at that time you
can easily lay the LT's in the bay when the motor is in a heads off
condition
Since the plan is one part at a time .... I'd consider something like this
for a first install phase.
Plan and save the entire amount for heads and cam that go well
with your current intake.
Plan and save for a mid pipe to go with your current LT's
Install the h/c/i and LT's/mid pipe in one install.
That would get your major motor work all done and out of the way
I would also say if you need a timing chain/gear set ... you would want
to do that while you got the front of the motor off.
Now here is where you got to keep a cool head with this plan :Word:
You still got tiny 19's and oem pump and they won't keep up with the h/c/i
So you'll need to drive it easy like until you can go to larger intank pump,
inj's, and meter.
I'd do the low gain stuff like tb, rr's, etc at the last
Are you gonna tune it?
Grady
What I plan on is leaving the stock high mile motor in it right now, and put my stuff i have sitting on the motor I bought while its out of the car. I was thinking of a cheap rebuild of the one I bought. GT 40 heads, a cam(not sure which one) and the intake I have sitting. What would be a cheap/dependable route to take on the reubild of the motor I have sitting.
To keep the cost down just look for good deals on oem iron heads
and if you pick a popular cam like a crane 2031 or something along
that line, you stand a better chance of getting a deal.
Look for used supporting parts ... that'll be a must on a tight budget
Should make around 260 to 280 rwhp even without a tune.
To try and get by without a tune ... don't go with 30's ... just use
24's and up the pressure.
I don't like this idea but you might even be able to get by with 19's but
you most certainly would have to do a large intank pump and jack up the
pressure a good bit.
Again ... I feel this is not a good way to go
but
You can stay with the oem meter this way without a tune.
If you wanna eventually make more NA power like 300 to 350 .......
building a combo on the cheap is more work and usually more
of an outlay of cash. The deal is some of the cheap stuff is just
not suitable for the ... later on ... more power combo.
How you get around the financial hit is ........
score deals on your cheap combo in such a fashion that you can
move the too little parts for the same money to someone who is
looking to build a starter combo just as you have done.
Grady
and if you pick a popular cam like a crane 2031 or something along
that line, you stand a better chance of getting a deal.
Look for used supporting parts ... that'll be a must on a tight budget
Should make around 260 to 280 rwhp even without a tune.
To try and get by without a tune ... don't go with 30's ... just use
24's and up the pressure.
I don't like this idea but you might even be able to get by with 19's but
you most certainly would have to do a large intank pump and jack up the
pressure a good bit.
Again ... I feel this is not a good way to go
but
You can stay with the oem meter this way without a tune.
If you wanna eventually make more NA power like 300 to 350 .......
building a combo on the cheap is more work and usually more
of an outlay of cash. The deal is some of the cheap stuff is just
not suitable for the ... later on ... more power combo.
How you get around the financial hit is ........
score deals on your cheap combo in such a fashion that you can
move the too little parts for the same money to someone who is
looking to build a starter combo just as you have done.
Grady
Oddly enough I do have one in the garage
Ok so it's not from a fox body, but I do have a solid 5.0 HO that came out of a 88 Lincoln, that we may do up over the winter. I was think tear down & sort of freshin it up. HCI that sort of thing, but might as well tear it right down & do piston & rings at same time, it'd be a shame to dress it all up only to have a weak bottom end when its done. I think when you got the time and it's not "must do now" you might as well do it right! It's those little basics things everyone over looks like timing chain, water pump etc that come back to bite you in the a$$. IMO. and I'm no mechanic.
Ok so it's not from a fox body, but I do have a solid 5.0 HO that came out of a 88 Lincoln, that we may do up over the winter. I was think tear down & sort of freshin it up. HCI that sort of thing, but might as well tear it right down & do piston & rings at same time, it'd be a shame to dress it all up only to have a weak bottom end when its done. I think when you got the time and it's not "must do now" you might as well do it right! It's those little basics things everyone over looks like timing chain, water pump etc that come back to bite you in the a$$. IMO. and I'm no mechanic.
'66 coupe
Founding Member
What kind of Lincoln was it in? If it was from an LSC, it should be the same engine as a Mustang.
Air intake is on oppsite side, otherwise same however it came out of an 1988 if that make any diff. other then computer (which I have for it)
BlackVert
15 Year Member
just what is your budget? i have most of the stuff for a pretty nasty 331 build (pistons, rods, crank, 3 cams, heads, long tubes). i was going to take my shortblock and get it machined and then build the engine, but the guy couldn't bring it down when he brought my car back, so it is all just sitting there waiting to be put in a block. at this point it looks like i won't have time to work on it anytime in the forseeable future.
i'd be willing to sell it at cost + shipping
send me an email at [email protected] if you want to figure out if any of it fits in your budget.
i'd be willing to sell it at cost + shipping
send me an email at [email protected] if you want to figure out if any of it fits in your budget.
Stanger007
Founding Member
BlackVert
15 Year Member
yeah, (cough cough), sorry. i've been kinda distracted lately what with getting my car back finally and the transmission issues. i'll get the shipping cost to ya soon. my damn work doesn't let employees ship from here anymore, so now i have to go to the nearest place ... fedex is like 4 miles away. sorry again
i have 2 sets of long tubes tho
i have 2 sets of long tubes tho
Stanger007
Founding Member
LOL, I'm just hassling ya - after the last go around w/ the auto and longtubes, I have no intentions of putting them in the car anytime soon (engine/heads will be out next time) so no rush - get your car back on the road first.
Wes
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