thanks steve i input your setting for time based tps and turned off TPS WOT% so far so good. Also i wanted some input on my closed loop idle activation on start up im getting some oscillation. The car starts and goes from around 2300 rpm slowly down to 900ish beautifully, then closed loop activates and it spikes up to 1500 and down 2x times before settling. is there anyway to eliminate that. Also idk if its the same thing causing my idle dip when going from high load and clutching in to a stop the idle drops below target and recovers, the car almost stalls. this isnt everytime but more often when letting it decel longer before clutching in. Any input in the right direction would be great.