Skeptical X2Crazeecooter said:This new 05 GT with 4.10's and drag radials is easily a high 12 sec. car.
Too portly!
Skeptical X2Crazeecooter said:This new 05 GT with 4.10's and drag radials is easily a high 12 sec. car.
I'm afraid that's old advice from a bygone era. Engineers I've spoken with tell me that the need for consumer "break-in" has almost been eliminated in today's world, in the effort to take as much risk and guess-work out of warranty-forecasting, and to reduce warranty claims and risk. With manufacturers warranting drivelines out to 100,000 miles, and selling even longer extended deals, the factories SMARTLY do not leave any "breaking-in" at the whim of their vast, varied, and mostly idiotic and mechanically-ignorant customer-base. The engines are "run-in" at very high rpm before they are even loaded into a chassis, and modern machine techniques and high tolerances have made the whole "drive her gentle, get a few oil-changes under your belt, don't rev her beyond xxxx" the stuff of old-school legend that survives because of father handing advice down to son, advice that's becoming ever-more irrelevant in today's auto industry. Their goal is to make cars that are designed and built and delivered to the ever-more mechanically-novice public under the basic assumption that every new owner will be hard on the machinery the moment they buy, and to anticipate that fact by having it ready for war before it rolls off the truck.What ever happened to the fact that as with anything else with major moveing parts in this world, it needs breaking in. I feel sorry for those people that like putting a hex on something from the start like that. Anyway, glad to see you haveing fun in it however though, just be a little easy on it for the first few oil changes if you want the engine to be broken in properly and last.
theoretically, with both transmissions completely stock, the manual will win if both are driven to their maximum. Of course that's with a 4-speed auto, the new 5-speed narrows the gap but you're still putting more power to the ground in a manual.
:OT:Stang2k5 said:blah blah blah .... are you atx people really that insecure about your inability to drive a stick that you have to keep posting and beating a dead horse about atx. Run what you want ... thats why the option is there for the atx ... The mtx is the industry standard on Mustangs ... deal with it.
Brilliant...Stang2k5 said:Agreed and because the manual puts out more power they usualy give the manual a lower final drive ratio thus allowing a higher top speed and better fuel economy.
iviustang50h said:Don't post BS threads just to get attention. People should be banned for that kind of crap!
Kumacho said:Mach1dsg knows me from a few other forums. He also knows I'm a hard core enthusiast... I hope he agrees with me when I say I'm a bit of a realist as well.
There are always the "freak" cars that produce more horses than the "normal" cars. There are also "freaks" that run quicker 1/4 miles than the rest of their brethren. However, it is usually a couple tenths at best.
Time and runs seem to be holding out that the Automatic '05 GT's are capable of turning 1.8X 60' times. It seems the best times being run are 13.6X and these are being done by folks that have more passes down the 1320 then most folks have driving back and forth to work.
I will not debate that there are going to be a few (very few) "freak" '05's that are going to be quicker than that. But those cars first have to make it into the hands of these very experienced racers and then I don't expect the times will be much more that a couple of ticks (at most) quicker.
The two people that have claimed 13.2X times have disappeared from existence almost as soon as somebody asked to see a slip. That alone would lead one to wonder if they were not salesmen trying to drive up the price of the '05's.
I have seen similar things happen with a lot of new cars on the market. Like the 13.00 second WRX STI claims that happened when they first came out -or- the mid 12 second claims a couple of people claimed they got out of LS1 Fbodies back in '97-'98.
I have no doubt the folks at the blue oval are going to give us some amazing Mustangs in the not too distant future. I love this new body style so much that I hope it's sooner than later... If they do it's going to be adios to the SS and hello pony!
I'm not here to bash the '05's as I do love them. I'm just here to say, "WTF".
ponycar17 said:Look, I only know what my bud has told me... He was at the track when this guy ran, and only pulled 14s at a very low MPH (96-98...)... You can't tell me that MPH has very much to do with the driver, because it doesn't... You can have a crappy run that makes as much MPH as your fast run... I know; I do it a lot... It's a heavy car; I can believe 14s...
SLOW 97 said:. The new car is supposedly lighter even though it doesn't look it one bit. Plus, new rear suspension=bad ass!
mach1dsg said:kumacho, i don't recall your name but i agree with you
my87gt said:You dont own a 350z and you are not a mustang fan nor will you ever own one, as told to me by you, so pretty please with sugar on top get to F%$#ing work.