got a new idea in my head. guys w/ 96-98 s/c'd give me your opinion.

[95 yellow 5 0]

Alright I still haven't sold the WRX but when I do I was planning on a new Mach 1 or a used 03 cobra..... I'm in college still though... Do i need a huge car payment? no....
What if i find a 96-98 for like $11k-15k. I will HOPEFULLY get rid of my car for like $17,500 and be left with $5000 cash. I could take out a loan for alittle over the car's price to have some extra money for mods...
what i'm asking is how much did you guys spend on a supercharger, internals (if u think it's necassary), tranmission (T56 or TKOII?), installation, tune, etc?
would about $6,000 cover it? If i was goin s/c, i'd try to find a cobra with some basic mods. If i only ran 6 psi would i really need internals? I'm sure it would see 7000 rpms a lot . what do you guys think?

 

[95 yellow 5 0]

what i'm asking is how much did you guys spend on a supercharger, internals (if u think it's necassary), tranmission (T56 or TKOII?), installation, tune, etc?
would about $6,000 cover it? If i was goin s/c, i'd try to find a cobra with some basic mods. If i only ran 6 psi would i really need internals? I'm sure it would see 7000 rpms a lot . what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]


anyone???

 

[Tat98Cobra]

what i'm asking is how much did you guys spend on a supercharger, internals (if u think it's necassary), tranmission (T56 or TKOII?), installation, tune, etc?
would about $6,000 cover it? If i was goin s/c, i'd try to find a cobra with some basic mods. If i only ran 6 psi would i really need internals? I'm sure it would see 7000 rpms a lot . what do you guys think?

First off, decide exactly what your goal(s) is. When I first bought my 98- I had no intention on modding it, so I chose her because of her looks. Then slowly, adding this, and adding that - got me to where I am now. If you know what you want to do from day one, and mod accordingly, you will save many thousands.
If I was just starting off - with the freedom to pick whatever car I could that would get me to my goals the fastest, Id go with the 03.
To setup a car properly, you need to have the forged internals. I purchased my 98 for 18K, and have over 15K invested right now due supercharging parts, pully systems, guages, countless fuel upgrades, many tunes, dyno time, etc. My car still needs forged internals though! So Im looking at another 10K to buy the block, and all the labor to switch everything over. It has been a learning process for me, so Ive made a lot of bad decisions along the way.
The 03 starts you off with the right engine. A couple cheap mods - and I could be at my 500ish rwhp and it wouldnt be a ticking timebomb...
So - Used 03 cobra: $27k + 2K in mods = 29K
So - unless you can get a 96-98 real cheap, and you know exactly what you need to do to achieve your goals the first time around, then I think you have your answer.

peace

 

[SaleenGTS]

Alright I still haven't sold the WRX but when I do I was planning on a new Mach 1 or a used 03 cobra..... I'm in college still though... Do i need a huge car payment? no....
What if i find a 96-98 for like $11k-15k. I will HOPEFULLY get rid of my car for like $17,500 and be left with $5000 cash. I could take out a loan for alittle over the car's price to have some extra money for mods...
what i'm asking is how much did you guys spend on a supercharger, internals (if u think it's necassary), tranmission (T56 or TKOII?), installation, tune, etc?
would about $6,000 cover it? If i was goin s/c, i'd try to find a cobra with some basic mods. If i only ran 6 psi would i really need internals? I'm sure it would see 7000 rpms a lot . what do you guys think?

Well, with me being a loan officer at a bank, I can already tell you that it will be hard to get "extra" on a 96 to 98. I just bought my 98 and because I am a loan officer, I was able to finance for 54 mos...but at 1% interest What you need to do is figure out what you can spend. The loan value on a 96 woth around 50K miles is about $9600. On a 97, $9800 and on the 98's it is about $10,500. That sounds bad. If you find a bank/credit union, or a loan officer that knows the resale and value of the Cobra's, he will take the risk, knowing that if you were to default, they would bank.

Now. the 4.6 96-98's weren't the best supercharger friendly engines (compared to the newer ones) I see 10# cobras making around 400 rwhp. a # pulley might get you 340 at the tires given all else is stock. I just ordered a Vortech for mine. I bought a S-Trim and Gears, bigger pump and injectors, and a powerpipe with a MAFS from a friend for $300...I spent just over $5500. My car already had exhaust. I will be looking to make hopefully around 415-425 rwhp.

If you get gears...it will see 7000 alot...redline comes fast with these cars.

 

[96vert]

I managed to run across an already-supercharged cobra 2 years ago, and bought it up for $18k. It was a steal, with only 13,000 miles, the s-trim supercharger, "real" cobra R rims, brand new tires, and 3.73 gears already installed.

It is pulleyed to 9# at 7000 RPM, and that gets me right at 425 RWHP with my custom burned chip. The problem is that you have to be careful with this much boost and stock internals, or you'll have piston pieces rattling around inside your engine before you know it. By be "careful" I mean let it warm up plenty, and don't spend too much time in the "boost" part of the guage. This engine simply wasn't made for it.

To answer your direct question - NO you cannot get a supercharger, engine internals, transmission, and miscellaneous parts for the s/c kit for anywhere near $6,000. The supercharger kit alone will be close to that number.

If I were you, I'd decide either to supercharge or not. If you are, then get an '03 (or wait till you can get an '03). If no boost, then go ahead and get a 96-98 (they look better anyway ), get gears, springs, exhaust, wheels, and maybe a small shot of nitrous if you're so inclined.

 

[SaleenGTS]

I managed to run across an already-supercharged cobra 2 years ago, and bought it up for $18k. It was a steal, with only 13,000 miles, the s-trim supercharger, "real" cobra R rims, brand new tires, and 3.73 gears already installed.

It is pulleyed to 9# at 7000 RPM, and that gets me right at 425 RWHP with my custom burned chip. The problem is that you have to be careful with this much boost and stock internals, or you'll have piston pieces rattling around inside your engine before you know it. By be "careful" I mean let it warm up plenty, and don't spend too much time in the "boost" part of the guage. This engine simply wasn't made for it.

To answer your direct question - NO you cannot get a supercharger, engine internals, transmission, and miscellaneous parts for the s/c kit for anywhere near $6,000. The supercharger kit alone will be close to that number.

If I were you, I'd decide either to supercharge or not. If you are, then get an '03 (or wait till you can get an '03). If no boost, then go ahead and get a 96-98 (they look better anyway ), get gears, springs, exhaust, wheels, and maybe a small shot of nitrous if you're so inclined.

I agree...a new kit, you won't come close. I got mine from a guy around town for cheap...sorry, forgot to mention that little tidbit of info.

 

[Roush21]

The 03 is already supercharged so thats a plus. 6lbs of boost is nothing on a 96-98 cobra. I run my 98 at 10lbs all the time and never had a single problem. Maybe you could find one taht is already supercharged....there's lots of them out there.

 

[95 yellow 5 0]

The 03 is already supercharged so thats a plus. 6lbs of boost is nothing on a 96-98 cobra. I run my 98 at 10lbs all the time and never had a single problem. Maybe you could find one taht is already supercharged....there's lots of them out there.

thanks for the replies guys.....

yeah i have a couple options. #1 problem is selling this car though. If no one buys it I may just trade it in towards an 04 mach 1.... THe mach is sweet but i'll have 03 cobra 03 cobra 03 cobra 03 cobra goin over and over in my head.
i found a 98 yellow couple with a vortech sq, 4.10s, bassani X, magnaflows and many suspension mods and some more stuff for $19k with 51,000 miles.... but what if i buy a s/c car then the engine or transmission goes. i'd be screwed. Then again i found some 03 cobras with around 12k miles for 24k and 25k but theyre in CA, TX and AL... how would i go about doin that when i'm in CT? funny that all the ads for the used cars say "never raced," then why did they ever put steeda stage III suspensions, 4.10's, and superchargers? i dunno what to dooooo... i just dont want to be a ricer and miss my old cobra so much... maybe i'll just get a cheap 98 and i wont have a high loan payment at all and i could save money and mod as i go? prob smarter to do. plus i get outta college in 2-3 years then i'll have a real job and get the new 06 cobra any other ideas?

 

[Friedchicken]

I'm not sure why you need to sell the WRX, it's a nice car and should be lots of fun?

A used 03 cobra is going for 24k-28K this year, next year it might be 22k-24k (same price as a Mach1).

 

[95 yellow 5 0]

I'm not sure why you need to sell the WRX, it's a nice car and should be lots of fun?

A used 03 cobra is going for 24k-28K this year, next year it might be 22k-24k (same price as a Mach1).

I've always had mustangs. The WRX just can't replace it. It can out handle any mustang but I'm not into Auto X or ever have been. You can get into enough trouble racing/driving in a straight line, throw in some curves and you're just asking to wreck your car. I don't even race people with this car though. I think I had 2 races and one I set up with my friend's stock 96 Mystic and I got stomped after 2nd gear. Both cars are total opposites. I miss the sound and getting thrown back in the seat. The WRX can only hang with v8's if you drop the clutch at around 5500 rpms which is no good for the car, so I don't do it. I dunno, it's definitly more practical so If I can't sell it, at least I have something reliable, but when it gets warmer and I'm seeing mustangs driving around I'm gonna be pretty jealous.
In the end, even if I can't supercharge a 96-98, still rather have that than my car now. Just sucks that if I can't sell the WRX soon, the value will drop even more. ehhhh dunno what to do. I could trade in for a crappy $15,500 towards an 04 black IUP Mach 1, but I owe 12,500 which is no good. Don't know what to do.

 

[Chris Doss]

THe 96-98 CObras love boost, they have excellent heads for boost. A stock vortech kit hitting 7-8lbs typically gives you about 400rwhp. You can run at this level and proably another 25+ rwhp pretty reliably. I'd say you'd have to drop $5k in blower, fuel system, gauges, & dyno tune expense. Personally, if money is an object and you can do most of your own work, go with the 96-98, but if money isn't so much of an issue, the '03s are a good package. You could exceed 500rwhp through our heads if you want to up the boost, but you'll quickly end up needing another block (add $3,000 min). At 400-425 and a rich tune, you can run reliably.